Message from @Wyntr

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2019-05-28 23:25:53 UTC  

Yeah, but he does mention that Texas joined the US as a sovereign nation as part of the justification of that.

2019-05-28 23:27:41 UTC  

Wasn't the US (and the whole concept of federalism) the idea that each state was a sovereign power? Strikes me as a return to the Old Ways and I'd be supportive of that

2019-05-28 23:30:49 UTC  

I'm rereading it now to find a mention of a specific mention of Texas' nationhood

2019-05-28 23:33:42 UTC  

When I first read it I thought the sovereign part was a reference to Texas being a country at one point, but it seems to apply to all states

2019-05-28 23:47:26 UTC  

@wolfman1911 @C1PHER Joining the US means each state gives up sovereignty, you can't have both.

2019-05-28 23:48:06 UTC  

States can't have sovereignty, only countries can.

2019-05-28 23:48:17 UTC  

Oh, my bad then, I kinda skimmed the article.

2019-05-28 23:49:15 UTC  

You understand some of it right, Texas may have wanted to keep its (i've not looked into it a lot), but that doesn't mean it still has it.

2019-05-28 23:50:25 UTC  

states have as much sovereignty as isn't explicitly given to the federal government via the constitution

2019-05-28 23:51:01 UTC  

that might have been a word salad just now, but oh well

2019-05-28 23:52:24 UTC  

Which at this point is basically none.

2019-05-28 23:52:47 UTC  

States control what happens inside them, but if the nation has rules that overrule anything. They have to follow them (unless they conflict with the constitution or some other exemptions).

2019-05-28 23:53:44 UTC  

@C1PHER
*"Wasn't the US (and the whole concept of federalism) the idea that each state was a sovereign power?"*
**NO DAMN IT!** The intention was the feds we're one power, the states were another power separate and equal.

2019-05-28 23:54:52 UTC  

MC, I don't think what I said contradicts that

2019-05-28 23:59:15 UTC  

point being, the federal government wasn't meant to rule over all the states like it tends to do now

2019-05-28 23:59:55 UTC  

It's 6 years old, and I haven't had time to read the whole thing to see if it is relevant, but on the off chance anyone is interested I found this
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30315.pdf

2019-05-29 00:00:51 UTC  

Forget that..... I hate reading.

2019-05-29 00:00:54 UTC  

heh

2019-05-29 00:01:09 UTC  

fair, it is 20 some pages long]

2019-05-29 00:02:00 UTC  

I doubt I'll get through it, but I'll bookmark it

2019-05-29 00:02:46 UTC  

Bro Imma read

2019-05-29 00:03:00 UTC  

its not like I have anything better to do

2019-05-29 00:06:45 UTC  

The constitution of the country limits its power and can only be expanded by the process documented in the constitution. Same process by state

2019-05-29 00:11:56 UTC  

So for instance in AZ they we voted to make services not prone to sales tax. The state can only change that via citizenry vote. Their sovereignty cannot override that (unless the voters are cowards and don't push back on it when attempted. Similar to the federal government, it expands power all the time, but only because the senate doesn't push back. And the senate doesn't push back because senators no longer represent the states soverienty. 17th ammendment should be abolished

2019-05-29 01:48:21 UTC  

https://globalnews.ca/news/5322875/b-c-conversion-therapy-ban/ does this include ndoctrination? I doubt it

2019-05-29 01:49:37 UTC  

https://globalnews.ca/news/5320719/alberta-labour-laws-changes/ sure "youth" wage just not normal minimum wage

2019-05-29 11:18:36 UTC  

i know that's fake because no one would have sex with Carl Manvers

2019-05-29 11:45:56 UTC  
2019-05-29 14:25:47 UTC  

Here I thought that was an actual thing...

2019-05-29 15:54:19 UTC  

Babylon bee is a bit too good sometimes

2019-05-29 16:36:39 UTC  

True.

2019-05-29 18:07:29 UTC  

That is amazing

2019-05-29 19:12:59 UTC  

I don't get it

2019-05-29 20:49:38 UTC  

smh groot you should know better it's 2016

2019-05-29 21:08:50 UTC  

Oh no, now John Cleese is racist! For... pointing out observable fact?
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1133604249693110272

2019-05-29 21:11:08 UTC  

Or I guess the lack of praise for diversity is enough

2019-05-29 21:12:53 UTC  

IT's a lose lose. He is only pointing out the multi-culturalism they praise so much. If they attack they are sticking up for the word 'English'. It must be hard for them.

2019-05-29 21:13:10 UTC  

i also saw the recent PJW video