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2019-08-25 10:22:46 UTC  

it wasn't all at once

2019-08-25 10:22:59 UTC  

most waited to see

2019-08-25 10:23:42 UTC  

I mean South Carolina

2019-08-25 10:23:47 UTC  

he made a veiled threat

2019-08-25 10:24:00 UTC  

many said wait and see

2019-08-25 10:24:08 UTC  

others said fuck that

2019-08-25 10:24:12 UTC  

He was in office since March 4, 1861

2019-08-25 10:25:13 UTC  

On November 9, 1860 the South Carolina General Assembly passed a "Resolution to Call the Election of Abraham Lincoln as U.S. President a Hostile Act" and stated its intention to declare secession from the United States

2019-08-25 10:25:19 UTC  

he said before he was in office that he would force them to pay the imposts northerners had been trying to impose for decades

2019-08-25 10:26:09 UTC  

south carolina was the first

2019-08-25 10:26:20 UTC  

they didn't wait

2019-08-25 10:26:50 UTC  

in his innaugural, he threatend them all

2019-08-25 10:26:58 UTC  

more joined

2019-08-25 10:27:28 UTC  

then he ordered the rest to raise armies to invade the others

2019-08-25 10:27:36 UTC  

they all left then

2019-08-25 10:28:25 UTC  

remember

2019-08-25 10:28:38 UTC  

he called general lee to lead his army

2019-08-25 10:28:50 UTC  

virginia had not left yet

2019-08-25 10:29:22 UTC  

he had ordered virginia to invade carolina

2019-08-25 10:29:51 UTC  

virginia refrused to invade carolina

2019-08-25 10:30:07 UTC  

virginia then left the union

2019-08-25 10:30:36 UTC  

lee then refused to turn on virginia

2019-08-25 10:31:41 UTC  

I just think SC knew what was going to happen now that he didnt need southern votes, before he said he would use force in the innaugural

2019-08-25 10:32:18 UTC  

nah

2019-08-25 10:32:21 UTC  

His speech and the raising of an army convinced the other states

2019-08-25 10:32:25 UTC  

he campaigned on it

2019-08-25 10:32:29 UTC  

it wasn't new

2019-08-25 10:33:28 UTC  

northern states had been failing to bring the southern states to heel for decades

2019-08-25 10:34:02 UTC  

he promised to impose national law on them as he was campaigning

2019-08-25 10:35:18 UTC  

putting an end to southern states rejecting DC policy was a central part of his platform

2019-08-25 10:36:39 UTC  

dude suspened habius corpus basically day one

2019-08-25 10:37:06 UTC  

imprisonned hundreds of journalists

2019-08-25 10:37:14 UTC  

And I think the southeners thought he couldnt win on that. When he did they knew the north would elect their own presidents now and they wouldnt be able to stop them

2019-08-25 10:38:12 UTC  

the southern states were operating under the rules at the time

2019-08-25 10:38:28 UTC  

you can enter and you can leave

2019-08-25 10:39:14 UTC  

it was not illegal to votw to leave then

2019-08-25 10:39:46 UTC  

jefferson davis was never tried because of that

2019-08-25 10:40:23 UTC  

not one prosecutor would take the case to try to convict him

2019-08-25 10:41:06 UTC  

seccession was not illegal

2019-08-25 10:42:49 UTC  

after years of searching for a prosecutor willing to take the case, the US govt gave up on it

2019-08-25 10:44:48 UTC  

southern seccession was never ruled in court to be illegal