Message from @Putz

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2019-09-03 03:03:48 UTC  

I primarily stick to chicken, and more recently turkey.

2019-09-03 03:03:51 UTC  

Ground specifically.

2019-09-03 03:04:18 UTC  

It's been super simple, quick, and easy on clean up in my wok.

2019-09-03 03:05:29 UTC  

I would eat more beans, butt...

2019-09-03 03:09:40 UTC  

🤣🤣🤣🤣

2019-09-03 03:09:41 UTC  

grain feeding beef fucks up it's omega fatty acid balance and therefore your cholesterol. much better(and I think more tastier) is grass-fed

2019-09-03 03:10:52 UTC  

also grass feeding isn't cruel like corn/grain fed

2019-09-03 03:26:44 UTC  

people should eat whatever they want, if people keep chowing down on beef it will rush in lab grown alternatives, which will be better

2019-09-03 03:51:13 UTC  

that's the same thing I say for endangered species, if you want an animal to survive and prosper eat it

2019-09-03 06:00:51 UTC  

*"(W)hich will be better."*
Until we die from the chemicals.

2019-09-03 07:21:20 UTC  

what chemicals?

2019-09-03 09:01:18 UTC  

Whatever chemicals they use to make that shit.

2019-09-03 09:51:28 UTC  

Maybe there would be some undesirable chemicals involved in practice, but in concept, it would just be cloned muscle tissue, fat, etc., and whatever nutrients that needs to grow. Personally, I'm all for the idea, though it sounds like we're a long way off from being able to grow a good thick steak, which is something I can't bring myself to give up.

2019-09-03 09:53:59 UTC  

we are really close to lab grown milk and egg

2019-09-03 09:58:05 UTC  

That's definitely a step in the right direction.

2019-09-03 10:00:10 UTC  

Though I will say as far as eggs go, chickens are pretty easy to keep, even with a modest sized yard, and just a few of them do an amazing job of recycling critters they find and your food scraps into a good food source.

2019-09-03 10:00:33 UTC  

here is a great interview on how they can make artificial rhino horn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfVn_IfRKo

2019-09-03 10:01:15 UTC  

which is a good start, because rhino horns are worth a ton, they can undercut the black market rhino horn industry, and develop the technology for other products

2019-09-03 10:01:17 UTC  

Ok. You two are trying to make me barf.
That's not how it works, but good for you for trying.

2019-09-03 10:01:52 UTC  

Was gonna say, I like the idea of flooding the market to tank the black market on them.

2019-09-03 10:02:27 UTC  

the artifical rhino horn is the exact same composition as natural rhino horn, even more pure

2019-09-03 10:03:44 UTC  

there are people opposed to them doing the rhino horn because they think we are better off educating people to not use rhino horn. i.e. people should be forced to learn why not to kill rhinos instead...

People are dumb

2019-09-03 10:03:55 UTC  

Ok, enlighten us on how lab grown meat really works then.

2019-09-03 10:05:25 UTC  

And what chemicals you're talking about.

2019-09-03 10:08:22 UTC  

basically they program yeast to grow the rhino horn

2019-09-03 10:10:43 UTC  

@Mandatory Carry Obviously there are a lot more details involved, and there are probably more complex "chemicals" like growth hormones involved to grow the stuff - I'll never claim to be an expert on how it's actually done, but the goal is to wind up with pure animal tissue without artificial fillers or anything like that. And I'm talking about a scenario where they achieve that goal.

2019-09-03 10:12:47 UTC  

@Putz I saw a thing about people growing artificial leather - think it was from fungus maybe? I'll try to find the vid...

2019-09-03 10:15:00 UTC  

Yeast milk, eh? MMMMM... Well, at least you don't have to replicate a complex structure with milk...

2019-09-03 10:15:09 UTC  

i think the party of science has done a great job villainizing anything created or modified in a lab. But realistically the fact that it is created or modified in a lab does not make it worse for you. there is the possibility it could be done that way, and there is the possibility a lab grown version could be improved

2019-09-03 10:21:37 UTC  

and if you do care about the environmentalism, seems like setting up a lab near cheap energy to produce milk would make a ton more sense in phoenix, az for example, where feed for cows is very expensive

2019-09-03 10:25:04 UTC  

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds8ZFzOwGeI Really good channel BTW

2019-09-03 10:26:33 UTC  

Also found this one when I was looking for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyXwUP7hdc This one uses lab grown collagen.

2019-09-03 10:28:12 UTC  

plus you take a place like guam or puerto rico and you can start to break their dependence on shipping for goods. I remember living in guam and food cost a fortune

2019-09-03 10:39:42 UTC  

If by "party of science" you mean the left, I'm not sure they have a monopoly on fear of lab grown food. Plenty of people on the right do as well. And I wouldn't say that caution, at the very least isn't warranted. There's a lot of history of corners being cut in harmful ways to bring down the cost of food, as well as pretty questionable uses of bioengineering. But I am somewhat optimistic that we can get to a point where these pursuits will pay off in a big way in the near future. Plus lab grown mean is a lot less gross to me than getting my protein from ground up bugs...

2019-09-03 11:01:02 UTC  

my biggest worry about the labgrown stuff is that we will reach a point one day where people will be just eating paste basically 😦

2019-09-03 11:08:05 UTC  

Part of my optimism comes from the fact that as things are right now, the real versions of things are obtainable enough that the lab grown stuff has to be up to a quality level that's comparable to compete.

2019-09-03 11:30:48 UTC  

i have no doubt that it will be, i think it will be even better than anything being made naturally

2019-09-03 11:31:32 UTC  

just look at how much farming has changed already, the tomatoes that we eat today, don't taste like the tomatoes our grandparents ate at all, they don't look the same either