but there is something called consensus, if 1 guy says that there is a table in that room, then another guy can come in, not knowing anything else and say the same thing, because there is a table in that room and not a chair

just because there is that 1 guy, who doesn't have it all together, and says that there is a chair, doesn't make the others wrong

indeed, and i do not know their response to that

its called having a mental illness

im sure they have one, but i havent read that far into it yet

Sounds like white supremacy if you ask me. Tables are a social construct.

haha

Premodernism destroyed with facts and logic

@Fondboy lemme know when you're ready to address the points made about AI, rights vs left, or anarchy, lad

on a sidenote, having just gone a bit through the chat, i can say that we do know how AIs currently work, its just that the algorithms are not understandable to the normal human, and that we can't follow their thoughtprocesses from one end to the other, but how everything is functioning we do know, because AI are still being build by humans, not other AIs

It also is largely irrelevant because information still takes up space, AI or no, and more information/more complicated predictions necessarily require more processing power

yup, which is why there will need to be a huge improvement in processing speed, before we will get anywhere close to a general ai

Actually... Last year there was an ai released that restructures layers/connections in generating new ai platforms in order to optimize them

It's like when people talk about game streaming being something we'll eventually figure out. Bitch lag is limited by the speed of fucking light. We have to break that barrier before it even becomes possible

and quantum computing isn't it, since while it allows for a ton of calcuations being done at once, if you need to do straightforward stuff, it isn't a big improvement

So yeah we are beyond the point of ai making ai

making ai just a tad more efficent isn't really revolutionary, not unless that ai can make that ai more efficent at making other ais more efficent

Calling what we have AI feels like a misnomer anyway

at which point the next step is for general ai to come to existence that can then program a lot of different ais for different tasks quickly, and command them that way, to do stuff way more efficent

It isn't about more efficient. If the ai algorithm doesn't converge for a particular case when given more data and doing this iterative step allows for that you get a binary difference in results

being more efficent is the whole point of ai though

But yeah the issue is that markets are essentially eyeballed by a collection of specialists who are looking out for themselves and their company. Even they dont have perfect information about those sectors, which is why the self corrective nature of competition is important

Imagine having one single planner, and the information you would need to make optimal decisions

Because you can't have free market competition or hierarchies

Yes/no. We can create more efficient ai by first making elaborate computationally intensive self adjusting frameworks and then export an ai state for efficient/non learning algorithm

Youre going to need a separate section of your whole society dedicated to server uptime and maintaining the machine itself. The size and power draw of that thing is probably going to be nuts

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>even in the matrix communism didn't work, so they settled on the 90s

Oh look, "The Third Eye"

you know the Matrix was plagerized right?

All works of fiction are based off of something like 7 basic narrative frameworks.

Everything in cyberpunk borrows heavily from prior work

It's sort of like the Lovecraft mythos except they exist in different universes

I meant there was lady who sued for copyright infringment

Did she win?

but I can't tell if she won or not

Snopes says "false" but that's Snopes

Tbh I dont really care about copyright infringement

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There are dozens of "a computer controls everything" stories