Blondes description of fondest 😂

"Unspeakably retarded" right?

lol thjat about sums it up

xD , tbf, when you feel like children are being harmed, not being triggered is also not all that cool

Fondyboi said something(s) that gave me the impression that he thinks being trans requires no medical diagnosis nor treatment (and he should correct me if I'm wrong), but that means MachoMaam is just as genuine as someone who was diagnosed and underwent hormone replacement and surgery.
Now we're back to my statement yesterday about not being able to hold a debate if we can't agree what words mean.

sounds like the lived experiences argument, where there is no objective truth.

if their truth is they are a woman, then its true. or something to that effect

the "my truth" bs is a fancy way of saying that you are lying

didnt he or one of his associates say they reject the concept of objective truth?

iirc, then that would lend credence to them saying the above

avald, it comes from postmodernism.

i suppose you could, as long as it doesnt violate someone elses rights.

that wouldnt be mutually exclusive

truth is truth... the reason its called "**the** truth" is because there is only one of it

the postmodernists say that one cannot know objective truth, because it is perceived through ones own senses

and therefore only the subjective truth can be known

but there is something called consensus, if 1 guy says that there is a table in that room, then another guy can come in, not knowing anything else and say the same thing, because there is a table in that room and not a chair

just because there is that 1 guy, who doesn't have it all together, and says that there is a chair, doesn't make the others wrong

indeed, and i do not know their response to that

its called having a mental illness

im sure they have one, but i havent read that far into it yet

Sounds like white supremacy if you ask me. Tables are a social construct.

haha

Premodernism destroyed with facts and logic

@Fondboy lemme know when you're ready to address the points made about AI, rights vs left, or anarchy, lad

on a sidenote, having just gone a bit through the chat, i can say that we do know how AIs currently work, its just that the algorithms are not understandable to the normal human, and that we can't follow their thoughtprocesses from one end to the other, but how everything is functioning we do know, because AI are still being build by humans, not other AIs

It also is largely irrelevant because information still takes up space, AI or no, and more information/more complicated predictions necessarily require more processing power

yup, which is why there will need to be a huge improvement in processing speed, before we will get anywhere close to a general ai

Actually... Last year there was an ai released that restructures layers/connections in generating new ai platforms in order to optimize them

It's like when people talk about game streaming being something we'll eventually figure out. Bitch lag is limited by the speed of fucking light. We have to break that barrier before it even becomes possible

and quantum computing isn't it, since while it allows for a ton of calcuations being done at once, if you need to do straightforward stuff, it isn't a big improvement

So yeah we are beyond the point of ai making ai

making ai just a tad more efficent isn't really revolutionary, not unless that ai can make that ai more efficent at making other ais more efficent

Calling what we have AI feels like a misnomer anyway

at which point the next step is for general ai to come to existence that can then program a lot of different ais for different tasks quickly, and command them that way, to do stuff way more efficent

It isn't about more efficient. If the ai algorithm doesn't converge for a particular case when given more data and doing this iterative step allows for that you get a binary difference in results

being more efficent is the whole point of ai though

But yeah the issue is that markets are essentially eyeballed by a collection of specialists who are looking out for themselves and their company. Even they dont have perfect information about those sectors, which is why the self corrective nature of competition is important

Imagine having one single planner, and the information you would need to make optimal decisions

Because you can't have free market competition or hierarchies

Yes/no. We can create more efficient ai by first making elaborate computationally intensive self adjusting frameworks and then export an ai state for efficient/non learning algorithm