Message from @Big T
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¿Seriously? ¿I gotta go back a year and find the shit he threw on my page?
Go for it
... I'll get around to it.
why?
I'm curious too...
we need to define child here
16 year old and 5 year old are not going to be treated the same
which would be what?
they can charge minors as an adult if they so choose
we talking what 10 years old?
9?
11?
Ok... So my 11 year old steals my ex-wife's gun, shoots his classmates, ¿I face the death penalty? (Please look past the wet dream of me shutting up for a second...)
so parents will be charged for something another person commited some of the times?
naw dude i aint down with that. pick an age and lets draw a line there
@Mandatory Carry agreed, thats an awful law
We already are...
fines are civil
seperate court
but they are seperate entities
So... ¿What changes under your proposal? BTW, Travis, fines are criminal, to the state for misconduct. Civil judgements are civil.
@Mandatory Carry only if the law broken was a criminal one.
but yes youre right on the distinction between civil judgements and fines.
yes, but to fine parents for murderwould require them to be charged with murder.
found guilty, and then sentenced
Again, i don't just disagree with others @Legalize. I have reasons for doing so...
It falls under the principle of you not being able to control every action another human takes.
A parent could raise a child in the best possible way ever, and that child could still commit a horrible action that leaves others dead, be it and accident or on propose, this does not mean the parents should be at fault. Only unless they knew about said action and did nothing to prevent it.
which would probably be under the existing definition for criminal negligence.
which comes back to the issue of when is a child acting on its own volition?
Ok, so back to my boy shooting a classmate; ¿I get charged with murder then?
if the child knows right from wrong, would they not then be of the sound mind to be charged as an adult?
and if so, then that would mean limit would be something like 3 years old.
or w/e age they learn that
Basically
To the injection chair with that fledgling DEGENERATE!
No, 3's actually about right.
so if you have a particularly adept 2 year old that murders someone, sure charge the parents with criminal neglicgence
oooooor we could just not
Missed my homie shadows
because it maaay be an accident