Ok

@Shadows, @Legalize,
I banned his page from my fascistbook page and group over his neo-NAzI comments. IIRC, it was Holocaust denial (it was a year ago, meaning 6 months of fb prison ago).

What? He’s not a neo nazi at all

And he doesn’t deny the holocaust

He explicitly gets mad at people who are and do

👀

¿Seriously? ¿I gotta go back a year and find the shit he threw on my page?

Go for it

... I'll get around to it.

why?

I'm curious too...

we need to define child here

16 year old and 5 year old are not going to be treated the same

which would be what?

they can charge minors as an adult if they so choose

we talking what 10 years old?

9?

11?

Ok... So my 11 year old steals my ex-wife's gun, shoots his classmates, ¿I face the death penalty? (Please look past the wet dream of me shutting up for a second...)

so parents will be charged for something another person commited some of the times?

naw dude i aint down with that. pick an age and lets draw a line there

@Mandatory Carry agreed, thats an awful law

We already are...

fines are civil

seperate court

often criminal charges will have civil cases following them

but they are seperate entities

So... ¿What changes under your proposal? BTW, Travis, fines are criminal, to the state for misconduct. Civil judgements are civil.

@Mandatory Carry only if the law broken was a criminal one.

but yes youre right on the distinction between civil judgements and fines.

yes, but to fine parents for murderwould require them to be charged with murder.

found guilty, and then sentenced

Again, i don't just disagree with others @Legalize. I have reasons for doing so...

It falls under the principle of you not being able to control every action another human takes.
A parent could raise a child in the best possible way ever, and that child could still commit a horrible action that leaves others dead, be it and accident or on propose, this does not mean the parents should be at fault. Only unless they knew about said action and did nothing to prevent it.

which would probably be under the existing definition for criminal negligence.

which comes back to the issue of when is a child acting on its own volition?

Ok, so back to my boy shooting a classmate; ¿I get charged with murder then?

if the child knows right from wrong, would they not then be of the sound mind to be charged as an adult?

and if so, then that would mean limit would be something like 3 years old.

or w/e age they learn that

Basically

To the injection chair with that fledgling DEGENERATE!