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2019-08-19 08:58:58 UTC  

if it turns out that being principled leads to better results than critical thinking

2019-08-19 08:59:05 UTC  

then we should be principled

2019-08-19 08:59:14 UTC  

actually, i argue this is true for most people

2019-08-19 08:59:29 UTC  

people are pretty bad at making these evaluations

2019-08-19 08:59:33 UTC  

I don't disagree with that point

2019-08-19 09:00:19 UTC  

(at least on the big decisions in their lives)

2019-08-19 09:00:22 UTC  

that's probably one of the functions of religious institutions

2019-08-19 09:00:25 UTC  

yes

2019-08-19 09:00:50 UTC  

i mean, its also part of why we have the law

2019-08-19 09:01:28 UTC  

true

2019-08-19 09:01:53 UTC  

so yea, there's definitely a large place for deontological thinking. i just think if you're a particularly smart person, you're losing out by following it

2019-08-19 09:02:10 UTC  

(deontology doesnt catch out the edge cases)

2019-08-19 09:02:30 UTC  

so if you can get those edge cases right, and others cant, you have an advantage over them

2019-08-19 09:04:51 UTC  

heh, depends on the cost of figuring out those edge cases vs the benefit of solving them

2019-08-19 09:05:30 UTC  

definitely

2019-08-19 09:05:40 UTC  

you could have a hybrid system

2019-08-19 09:05:58 UTC  

but you would want the principles to be derived from consequentialist arguments

2019-08-19 09:09:10 UTC  

rather than having them instituted without any good justification

2019-08-19 09:11:35 UTC  

(which is what i argue a lot of people do -> they take "learned principles" from other people, but where did those other people get their principles from 😉 its almost like an infinite regression and when you look at where they came from, a lot of them were originally derived in a bygone era, and thus the principle may no longer be useful in its consequences)

2019-08-19 09:15:10 UTC  

I agree on that point. And with that, I'm off to bed. Good night.

2019-08-19 10:55:06 UTC  

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2019-08-19 11:41:40 UTC  

GOTTEM

2019-08-19 11:41:47 UTC  

nah it's a twitch meme now

2019-08-19 11:41:52 UTC  

4chan tried

2019-08-19 11:41:55 UTC  

and failed

2019-08-19 12:07:51 UTC  

nah it depends on the meme

2019-08-19 12:07:58 UTC  

it was for a while

2019-08-19 12:08:11 UTC  

now clown world I would say is the worst right leaning meme

2019-08-19 12:08:59 UTC  

not only is it made by fascists it also is used to end arguments you cannot win

2019-08-19 12:10:13 UTC  

yup

2019-08-19 12:10:26 UTC  

instagram memers

2019-08-19 12:10:32 UTC  

the dumbest kind of memer

2019-08-19 12:11:17 UTC  

it steams from honkler

2019-08-19 12:11:19 UTC  

fren world

2019-08-19 12:11:36 UTC  

which was a reddit page shut down for antisemitism

2019-08-19 12:12:11 UTC  

the original honkler theme song comments was full of ((())) and 50% of honkler commit 13% of the honks

2019-08-19 12:12:14 UTC  

stuff like that

2019-08-19 12:12:23 UTC  

it was taken down but has been reuploaded

2019-08-19 12:13:43 UTC  

because they were part of it?

2019-08-19 12:13:48 UTC  

oh reddit admins

2019-08-19 12:13:49 UTC  

nvm