People still call themselves actual Stalinists and communists despite the atrocities caused by those ideologies

And people who are proud to label themselves neo-Nazis aren't exactly unheard of, either

distinction:

Nazi is not a person, Stalin is a person so you can call yourself a Stalinist if you worship what Stalin said/did

nazi is a specific location and time that is now gone

To add, how many people go around unironically wearing Che T-shirts despite his actions in life

Nazism is a fusion of ideologies though, if you can name it that, the same way Stalinism is a specifc take on communism

I'm saying no calls themself a Hitler-ist which is stupid sounding but fine

I’ve seen a feminist say that the victims of the holodomor deserved it

I couldn’t tell if she was joking

Since she is absolutely hysterical

Because Hitler never made himself the core of his movement, per se, whereas Stalin made moves to create himself as the center in order to combat Trotskyism

There's a reason we use the names of those two vs Hitlerism

which afaik doesn't exist in common use

Because Hitler expressed his views through Nazism; they were practically inseparable

In the same vein, no one ever calls themselves a Mussolinist

well this all sounds like semantics to me though, are you saying that my argument is just semantics?

There was a distinct difference between Stalin vs Trotsky outside of "hail leader"

because if you are are, that's not a counter argument to what I said

Not quite, I'm saying that the ideologies (or strains thereof) were named due to distinct policy/execution differences

and that people follow those based on their values

I don't think it "cheapens" anything when adherents to said ideologies (or strains thereof) wish to repeat those atrocities should they manage to grab power again

We've had people in this server call for forced concentration of Jews in Israel, and subsequent nuking of the place

Wouldn't it be accurate to call that Nazism, as such?

"repeat those atrocities should they manage to grab power again" I don't know what you are talking about, are you referencing something in particular? I haven't heard of anyone actually doing this?

I just mentioned one lol

Also, commies advocating for gulags for the dirty bourgeoisie

sorry i was typing

Yeah all good mate

i mean

it sounds like a joke

I agree to the extent that people who use Nazi as an epithet definitely cheapens the meaning of it

but the line is blurred, at least to me, because we have people who actually want that sort of thing to happen again

If you look beyond "ze hOlOcAuSt" , national socialism has a lot of great benefits for a homogeneous society. Then again I still prefer the true American model which we have unfortunately strayed away from over time.

A homogeneous population is required for a thriving nation, there are no long lasting and successful nations throughout history who put diversity first

I tend to agree, considering Japan has hilariously implemented similar policies to some benefit

and being worshipped by leftists everywhere because of muh universal healthcare

easy for Japs since they are all the same race

lots biological homogeneity

well, having strict immigration helps with that, too

and having no land mass