I was wondering because every conservative news outlet and youtuber got fucking triggered so hard

> "America deserved 9/11"
If we're generous, he's suggesting that America brought it upon itself by constantly arming terrorist groups in the ME, which is a valid opinion to have

yea

if you watch the entire clip he explains that part

I'm not pointing fingers at you or obama I'm just making sure we're talking about the same thing

I knew Obama order a bunch I didnt know Trump ordered any

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

Is Piker's moment relevant to your debate topic?

sorta, violence and deserving wise

you seem rather reasonable

19.25 per year vs 88 per year

@Clive

and if you see what I said above I said 'increased'

it is unedited go check

I didnt know that thanks for sharing I dont like drone strikes

I dont have the whole context, but escalated drone strikes seem to be a bad thing

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yay

But to push back a little, if I may

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YOU'RE TEASING ME

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I have to go to bed soon too

"because someone's action of voting Trump into office has responsibility for the increased drone strikes in Yemen"
People who voted for trump arent responsible for those deaths, they are responsible for anything Trump does. Only trump is responsible for trump. Technically the only person/people responsible are the drone pilots that dropped the bombs. Trump may have given the order but if, for example, everyone refused to do, then his orders would never come to fruition and no drone strikes would have happen. Now I know anyone who disobeyed would be jailed and courtmarshalled obvi. In this case, trump is guilty similar to someone who hires a hitman, even though trump didnt do the actual killing of the target(s).

I'm not speaking legally here, only metaphysically or morally

morally also Trump was pro 'bombing the shit out of them' during the campaign

That's a bad time bro

Ma'am?

"the buck stops here"

what

What country do you live in?

Canada

I'm confused

Up late lol

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/13/trumps_updated_isis_plan_bomb_the_shit_out_of_them_send_exxon_in_to_rebuild.html

yea I work nights

Ah

```U.S. president Harry S. Truman had a sign on his desk with 'The buck stops here' inscribed on it.

This was meant to indicate that he didn't 'pass the buck' to anyone else but accepted personal responsibility for the way the country was governed.
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@C1PHER morally, I disagree with that. Every man is responsible for his actions

And only his

does this go for all presidents? Also if an employee does something that kills someone is the company not liable? I might be wrong. But if a engine check happens for example and the shitty engineer or mechanic misses something on a plane then it crashes the people who put the mechanic there are liable