Hasar?

hasan piker

Ah

Are you referring to the Obama drone strikes?
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

Piker's opinion seemed to be based on some actual facts, but he expressed it in an extraordinarily stupid way

Which I would agree with

@Clive nice whataboutism if obama did it too I don't care I don't like it at all

ok

I was wondering because every conservative news outlet and youtuber got fucking triggered so hard

> "America deserved 9/11"
If we're generous, he's suggesting that America brought it upon itself by constantly arming terrorist groups in the ME, which is a valid opinion to have

yea

if you watch the entire clip he explains that part

I'm not pointing fingers at you or obama I'm just making sure we're talking about the same thing

I knew Obama order a bunch I didnt know Trump ordered any

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

Is Piker's moment relevant to your debate topic?

sorta, violence and deserving wise

you seem rather reasonable

19.25 per year vs 88 per year

@Clive

and if you see what I said above I said 'increased'

it is unedited go check

I didnt know that thanks for sharing I dont like drone strikes

I dont have the whole context, but escalated drone strikes seem to be a bad thing

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yay

But to push back a little, if I may

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YOU'RE TEASING ME

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I have to go to bed soon too

"because someone's action of voting Trump into office has responsibility for the increased drone strikes in Yemen"
People who voted for trump arent responsible for those deaths, they are responsible for anything Trump does. Only trump is responsible for trump. Technically the only person/people responsible are the drone pilots that dropped the bombs. Trump may have given the order but if, for example, everyone refused to do, then his orders would never come to fruition and no drone strikes would have happen. Now I know anyone who disobeyed would be jailed and courtmarshalled obvi. In this case, trump is guilty similar to someone who hires a hitman, even though trump didnt do the actual killing of the target(s).

I'm not speaking legally here, only metaphysically or morally

morally also Trump was pro 'bombing the shit out of them' during the campaign

That's a bad time bro

Ma'am?

"the buck stops here"

what

What country do you live in?

Canada

I'm confused