Message from @Fondboy

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2019-09-18 03:33:26 UTC  

Obama wanted to veto it

2019-09-18 03:33:35 UTC  

that bill is the review of a perspective deal

2019-09-18 03:33:49 UTC  

not the treaty itself

2019-09-18 03:34:19 UTC  

oh shit

2019-09-18 03:34:21 UTC  

where is that

2019-09-18 03:35:20 UTC  

ah found it

2019-09-18 03:35:24 UTC  

what a dumb name

2019-09-18 03:36:27 UTC  

the article states it plainly

2019-09-18 03:37:42 UTC  

yea executive order

2019-09-18 03:37:45 UTC  

my bad

2019-09-18 03:38:04 UTC  

this doesn't change what is happenign

2019-09-18 03:38:57 UTC  

Under U.S. law the JCPOA is a non-binding political commitment.[151][152] According to the U.S. State Department, it specifically is not an executive agreement or a treaty.[153] There are widespread incorrect reports that it is an executive agreement.[154][155] In contrast to treaties, which require two-thirds of the Senate to consent to ratification, political commitments require no congressional approval, and are not legally binding as a matter of domestic law (although in some cases they may be binding on the U.S. as a matter of international law).[154][f]

2019-09-18 03:39:33 UTC  

I never claimed it was

2019-09-18 03:39:56 UTC  

of course but the point I;m making is that when Obama chose not to radify it as a treaty he opened it up to the next president revoking it on whim

2019-09-18 03:40:09 UTC  

but ending this deal has caused iran to increase its production of enriched uranium

2019-09-18 03:40:17 UTC  

ok here is my claim

2019-09-18 03:40:25 UTC  

cancelling the iran deal was bad

2019-09-18 03:42:35 UTC  

I'm going to ignore you while I talk to Spader if he wants a source he can have one

2019-09-18 03:43:10 UTC  

oh also not only did trump drop the deal but also put sanctions on them too

2019-09-18 03:43:23 UTC  

no the wikipedia page talks about Iran declaring itself out of compliance this year

2019-09-18 03:43:30 UTC  

after the deal was scrapped

2019-09-18 03:43:37 UTC  

"scrapped"

2019-09-18 03:43:54 UTC  

still applies in Europe and elsewhere to my understanding

2019-09-18 03:44:42 UTC  

yes but america dropped it and put sanctions on them. Were they getting money from European countries? I don't actually know.

2019-09-18 03:44:53 UTC  

idk ether

2019-09-18 03:45:21 UTC  

it just mentions the deal included a bunch of other countries none of which had the political motivations to scrap it like the US

2019-09-18 03:45:36 UTC  

again to the best of my knowledge

2019-09-18 03:45:41 UTC  

I mean if they were I wonder if it would be anything close to what they got from america. But not only did america put a dick in their mouth, then they tied them up and put it in their ass too

2019-09-18 03:45:59 UTC  

that's a colorful turn of phrase

2019-09-18 03:46:03 UTC  

what political motivations

2019-09-18 03:46:14 UTC  

different party in power

2019-09-18 03:46:28 UTC  

campaign promise

2019-09-18 03:46:30 UTC  

etc

2019-09-18 03:46:41 UTC  

yea but it was bad is what I'm saying

2019-09-18 03:46:47 UTC  

why

2019-09-18 03:46:50 UTC  

america should have kept the deal

2019-09-18 03:47:02 UTC  

not dogging genuinely curious why you support the deal

2019-09-18 03:48:54 UTC  

lol

2019-09-18 03:50:17 UTC  

because it benefits both parties. the USA can keep Iran harmless (with nukes at least) in order to protect its allies in that area. I think america has sanctions on iran before the deal but that might not be true. Irans government will benefit from the money being returned to them hopefully benefiting the people. Irans people will also probably like america more if we don't fuck them over economically, this leading to progression in that country