Message from @uncephalized
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@MechMage choose 1) open borders with Mexico and no Fed or 2) keep the Fed and no more illegal immigration
The cost of paper is literally the last thing on my mind.
until inevitably the 3 states merge into a country governed under 3 provinces or states where there are the same small differences with one tax policy
I'm going to need to think about that one @uncephalized
Explain to me how that is in any way inevitable
Haha yeah me too @MechMage
oh here is a good meme I heard from a friend
we keep the illegals as keep labour to lower the cost of goods because they work for so little
cheap*
Wat
1) but only because abolishing the fed will force the gov to pay for the welfare state and hopefully reduce it enough to sufficiently disincentivize illegal immigration.
Yeah, if you don't care about the slave underclass, they make life better for everyone else.
No. Illegals also lower the price of labor in service jobs which is a net harm to our working class @Fondboy
See also China using it's serf class to subsidize it's exports.
no it would be a gain for everyone because cheaper products
this is why you don't want to raise minimum wage
It would be a net gain maybe.
Some interest groups would suffer, like with any policy.
yea
put the taxes towards those areas
I would *abolish* the minimum wage entirely, but I would also deport all illegals and severely regulate legal labor migrants.
I'm with you as far as severe regulations.
I don't know how to justify preventing willing people from working under circumstance some bureaucrat doesn't approve of.
Up to severe regulations I should say.
I just want to reduce the number of people brought into the country.
Not tell people who are already here legally what to do
Oh, "labor migrants"
man, reading is hard, eh?
😉
I'd severely *deregulate* domestic labor
including abolishing the minimum wage as I mentioned
I think we mostly agree then.
Ideally I think open borders would be fine once/if the welfare state is greatly reduced but until that happens (lol) a well controlled border is a necessary evil.
would you rather the burden of people making enough to live be on the economy or the governmnet
I don't understand your question.
I'd rather that people took responsibility for their own well being instead of a centralized detached organization treating them as helpless children and lap dogs.
But that's a false dichotomy obviously.
yea but there will always be people stuck at wallmart and macdonalds
and at the moment those peoples livelyhoods are being covered by the government
so would you rather force the company to raise wages increasing the cost of their products
or would you rather the government just keep helping them out and keep getting cheaper products