Message from @A. Spader

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2019-09-30 18:54:26 UTC  

Anything good come out of that class discussion?

2019-09-30 18:54:29 UTC  

Or armed and trained populus.

2019-09-30 18:54:31 UTC  

I've thought of the best pro gun solution to mass shootings, and what I came up with is a modified version of Mandy's law he pushes on here

2019-09-30 18:55:09 UTC  

@C1PHER No. Everyone was pro gun control and extremely poorly educated on gun laws. I dont even think any of them have even fired a gun.

2019-09-30 18:55:17 UTC  

Not everyone is going to walk around strapped all the time, particularly children, and I don't think it's right to force people to carry

2019-09-30 18:55:36 UTC  

So soft targets need proper security

2019-09-30 18:55:41 UTC  

call it the Sentinel Militia Act. Basically get a universal free license, that requires training, that gives you freedom to carry open or concealed anywhere. Opt in, but offer benefits to joining

2019-09-30 18:56:20 UTC  

have the license requirements managed by the Nat Guard, and only local databases about enrollees

2019-09-30 18:56:32 UTC  

Oh honestly I think firearms and first aid should be a required component of schooling

2019-09-30 18:56:38 UTC  

^^^^

2019-09-30 18:56:40 UTC  

big fax

2019-09-30 18:56:41 UTC  

I think the root to the problem goes back again to dysfunctional families and and escalated mental health problems

2019-09-30 18:57:17 UTC  

@pussydestroyer that's definitely true, but soft targets do seem to invite this sort of thing

2019-09-30 18:57:32 UTC  

Quite possibly. Somehow this wasn't a problem in the era of mail-order machine guns

2019-09-30 18:57:40 UTC  

2a is civics, civics is important for citizens to know
Ergo 2a should be core curriculum

2019-09-30 18:57:57 UTC  

That's the other thing eh

2019-09-30 18:58:12 UTC  

Gun restrictions started proper in what, the 60s?

2019-09-30 18:58:22 UTC  

depends on what you mean

2019-09-30 18:58:24 UTC  

(well, organised crime probably was but still)

2019-09-30 18:58:58 UTC  

Oh Im not disputing that. But I think its important to combat the problem that causes predominantly men, to commit mass shootings. I feel like mass shootings is a symptom of a deeper problem in our culture @A. Spader

2019-09-30 18:59:06 UTC  

1860s was the first time you see any real restrictions, with acts to bar black people from owning guns under the guise of 'safety'

2019-09-30 18:59:40 UTC  

The NFA was in the 1930's, so I'd at least go back that far

2019-09-30 18:59:46 UTC  

1920s and 30s are the first time racially neutral gun control was a thing

2019-09-30 18:59:53 UTC  

yeah the NFA

2019-09-30 19:00:07 UTC  

and the NRA helped ban conceal carry in a number of states in the 1920s

2019-09-30 19:00:24 UTC  

Ah, 34 and 27 seem to be highlights yeah

2019-09-30 19:00:44 UTC  

Oh and the FFL

2019-09-30 19:00:47 UTC  

then you have the GCA of 1968, that was the real hammer

2019-09-30 19:00:48 UTC  

in 38

2019-09-30 19:00:56 UTC  

Yeah that's what I was thinking of

2019-09-30 19:01:06 UTC  

same year Reagan banned OC in city public in california

2019-09-30 19:01:53 UTC  

Point being though, outside of racially targeted laws and laws deemed unconstitutional

2019-09-30 19:02:04 UTC  

Primary breakdown of gun rights is relatively recent

2019-09-30 19:02:21 UTC  

And yet it's not like for all of the US' history it was this brutal and barbaric place

2019-09-30 19:02:23 UTC  

from about 1968-1990s the 2A was almost destroyed

2019-09-30 19:03:09 UTC  

but the conceal carry movement and orgs like the Second Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America had started in the mid 80s, and by 2000 gun rights came roaring back

2019-09-30 19:03:49 UTC  

contrary to what Colbert believes, American gun culture is experiencing revival right now

2019-09-30 19:04:09 UTC  

we're light years better off than we were only 30 years ago

2019-09-30 19:04:44 UTC  

the '94 Assault Weapons Ban is not getting passed again without ether major opposition or civil war

2019-09-30 19:04:50 UTC  

Isnt crime overall going down as well?

2019-09-30 19:04:54 UTC  

yep