https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OhIdDNtSv0

pretty much this with gov't spending

"pardon me but thats bullshit" 😂 😂 😂

fantastic movie

the kid helping him figure out the weapon is great

How do they put down animals in shelters?

@Weepy If you find out, we should do that to weebs.

How dare you

Good point. Too good for weebs.

We need Zyklon for them.

ah, there are several different methods. so, for example, in high kill shelters, they use gas chambers (carbon dioxide or monoxide) and put a group of dogs in at a time (maybe the size of an oven). intracardial injection is abit dated but still sometimes used. or there are methods of individual euthanasia, for example when a companion dog is put down at the vet individually, they'll use Pentobarbital combination injections

@Weepy so you would say that the method matters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHXF1cmX4KU

the numbers are staggering

I wish I knew more about it to have an opinion. Is it painful for them?

Well, the effectiveness of the gas chambers depends on the equipment and training of the personnel operating the equipment. It's a method classified as "acceptable with conditions" as opposed to "acceptable" by the AVMA. "with conditions" means that conditions must be met, andthere is room for error. typically, injections tend to be less faulty, more effective in rapid and stress-free death, and thus more likely to be humane. but thet's more expensive, and let's say, in the south where a shelter might be euthanizing 50+ dogs in a day with limited funding, you gotta consider that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/23/quentin-miracle-dog-who-survived-gas-chamber-started-movement-dies-st-louis/

"The gas chamber was about the size of a large washing machine, and Quentin, an auburn-colored basenji mix with pointy ears, was locked inside with seven other dogs.

The morning of Aug. 4, 2003, started like any other at the St. Louis Animal Control pound, which had been killing six to eight dogs every day, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported at the time. First, employees tranquilized 1-year-old Quentin and the other dogs awaiting the chamber. They ushered the dogs inside the airtight box and shut the door. Then, for 15 minutes, they pumped in poisonous carbon monoxide.

But when employee Rosemary Ficken opened the door again, she found something startling: Quentin, staring back at her and wagging his tail — surrounded by dead dogs."

Yeah, ideally it could be as painless as possible, but I understand the trade-off with costs. Is the stray dog problem very bad there?

some areas are worse than others. I'm from NJ where stray dogs aren't much an issue, so I don't know first hand how bad it is in the south, but there are much more problems there with stray dogs

LA is a good example and this clip is really good IMO

it's only like three minutes

stray dogs everywhere and a guy dedicates his time trying to humanely capture and place them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClYjRru3EhQ

low income families who cant afford proper vet care or backyard breeders who breed and then turn their dogs lose have made the situation really terrible

I think the only way to solve the problem would be tackling the source, rather than trying to ban kill shelters.

definitely

like, in one of the videos i found while researching, one of the shelter personnel is crying because he loves dogs, thats why he works the shelter, but he has to kill these "surplus" dogs with nowhere to go. of course dickheads in the comments say oh youre evil for killing the dogs, youre an asshole, you enjoy murdering dogs and thats why you do it, don't kill the dogs. blah blah blah. smfh. and then the people who insist we should ban breeders, well, no. people spending thousands on their purebred breeds with good genes that propagate better breed condition aren't the ones letting their dogs loose to overpopulate. its the backyard breeders and irresponsible owners who are to blame.

its really a complicated issue lol

Absolutely. I don't understand what these people think can be done with the dogs instead of putting them down. There aren't enough people to adopt all of the stray dogs. And even if somehow a shelter had unlimited resources for food/space, that's no life for a dog, living forever in a cage. Neither is just barely surviving on the streets. And I'm a pretty big stickler against free-roaming cats, so I have to extend that to dogs as well. I wish everyone would spay and neuter their dogs and keep them secured on their own property.

what happens a lot of times is that rescues from the north scout adoptable dogs from the south to rescue and ship up north, and that whole industry has become a sort of business within the rescue community. ever since hurricane katarina (2005 ish) when dogs were shipped up north cause of that, the connections persisted after that and now southern rescue dogs are a dime a dozen

but like you said, it's not gonna stop of the roots of the overpopulation aren't sovled

"overpopulation"

i'm not sure why you quoted that @A. Spader

what's your thought?

i'm writing a paper on euthanasia and if you have an issue with that wording i would love to hear your thoughts

Spader's a Scando. Not very bright.

maybe you thought of something or have an opinion i hadn't considered

😂 oh no

oh I just meant population control is a fake issue

what do you mean by that?