Message from @McFansy
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So, the bank?
@Catboi yea, tho TIL that golem always turns on its creator.
In the Book of Samuel King David must collect 100 philistine dick skins in order to get married to his wife.
Seems like a weird way to bond with your father in law.
not even the weirdest thing in the Scriptures
You mean you guys didn't give a hundred dick skins at your wedding?
If you count the ones still attached, maybe?
In another part of the Bible a prophet calls a curse on three teenagers teasing him by telling him to become an apostate (essentially by going to another temple and sleeping with temple prostitutes instead of worshipping YHWH) and God agrees and lets three bears come out and eat the the vulgar teens.
Summoning bears on your detractors is a pretty reasonable flex compared to dick collecting for father in law
But conjure animals is a druid spell, not a cleric one π€
Pagans confirmed
To be fair the old Testament is basically God telling, through the prophets, the Israelites to do this one thing, then the Israelites saying "lawl no", then God punishing the Israelites for disobedience and the prophets laughing in the Israelites faces repeatedly.
Definitely setting the pattern to follow π
Hey, can I ask a question? Not directed at anyone in particular.
People might criticize Islam and say look in the holy books they oppress women and are oppressive and this and that, thus Islam is bad.
But akyhough christianity or Judaism has similarly controversial and regressive stuff in their holy books, it is not framed similarly. You can ignore it and not focus on it
Why is that? Any takers?
You're just talking about the books themselves right?
Not the actual practice that takes place?
lmao
I don't know what it is in Christianity one would consider 'regressive' but even granting that point I really don't care
it's a good thing we don't base our moral frameworks off what the culture considers 'scandalous'
@kujapirate1996 controversial things like?
A lot of Paul's teachings are held up too literally imo. A lot of his recorded remarks are analogies or one off statements that I question the doctrinal validity of.
For instance women being quiet. I doubt that's doctrinal.
Also, who has actually tried to read the Qur'an? I've tried to find English translations that make sense, but the entire structure of how the various passages are made up is just plain confusing.
@kujapirate1996
Lolwut? Islam is right about women.
To know the difference between Christianity and Islam you just have to look at their prophets
Jesus preached tolerance and acceptance
Muhammad said convert to Islam if you want to keep your head
Apparently there were also times when Muhammad preached peace and tolerance. Those times coincide with points where he was weak and/or at the mercy of others, and muslim scholars have ruled that those sections can be ignored in favor of the 'convert or die' parts.
It's Mecca vs Medina. Basically, his rise to power was more peaceful, but when he seized power he became ruthless.
Scholars state that the newer verses supersede any previous versions. It's not a contradiction, but rather a part of "the plan"
@JoJo, KΠΎΠΌΠΈΠΊ Tell that to @PiusXIII supposed priest who wants to beat people he disagrees with
Huh?
He says Jesus liked to use violence @JoJo, KΠΎΠΌΠΈΠΊ
What's the evidence?
I mean in all fairness an eternity of conscious torture in fire for anyone that rejects his message seems a tad violent
I don't think Jesus ever said that though
It was mostly his followers saying that
Phew, I was worried for a second there
Lol
Just saying, it doesn't detract from my statement
Wouldn't you say though, that both Jesus and Muhammad, either implicitly or overtly, essentially said that to go against them was to go against God?
Unless we're just gonna view both as rather eccentric dudes from history
Muhammed literally told his followers to kill people that didn't follow him
And also killed people himself
That's a large distinction from preaching peace
I also don't think Jesus ever said anything similar to that going against him meant going against God
I can't think of any examples off the top of my head of Jesus condemning someone simply for disagreeing with him
I mean, I guess you could say that he said being a bad person could be interpreted as "going against him"
So if I just don't think that his message makes much sense and I decide to take a pass, there's no consequences for that?
I don't think it matters either way
I don't think Jesus himself ever said much about you burning in hell for going against his teachings
Like I said, it was mostly his followers after his death preacher that
And mostly a few hundred years after they were all dead