Message from @Meiglos
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I don't follow that logic
religion = prrof of concept?
?
belief in a greatest good could be considered religion
but that requires belief
but you can't even say that there is belief
pna get it!
so what do you think, am i crazy.???
im not talking about birds
anyways, great convo guys, thanks for entertaining me 😃
with people sure, but with instinctive animals no way
again, religion and belief are purly human conceptions
JPB?
Heirichys are present in lobsters?
but heirarchies aren't beliefs
heirarchies are social status
and social species have been around for millenia
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you cannot say there are heriarchies in sponges
there are hierarchies in religion, there's no religion in hierarchies
no they don't
no heriarchies do not require belief
'splain
hierarchies are just a way of ranking one thing as better than another, but you don't need belief for that
you are a small wolf, there are other wolves but they are all larger
therefore you are bottom wolf
no belief necessary
Eric - you contradicted yourself......you need to believe one thing is better than the other.....
there is no belief behind knowing one is better than another
ahhh but the female wolf has to choose who to mate with
you don't "believe" it, you just behave within the constructs of the hierarchy
there is a belif there
how about a 200m race
5 people run it and they all come in different places
this is a heirarchy
you have to be capable of complex thought to be capable of belief
is it the silkiest coat.........the biggst? the stealthiest.........but thats what makes us different.....the values we choose
animals dont necessarily choose
but lobsters don't choose those values, they just naturally behave within that structure
they instinctually go for whoever is at the top of the heirarchy