Remember not only do you neeed to be cheaper than fossil fuels, but so cheap they will tear down their old grid and use yours instead

Green Energy is still pretty far off, in that it needs to become cheap to manufacture to get poor countries on board with it. And it needs to produce way more power to meet our needs. Although other energy alternatives are in the works.

Fusion and nuclear come to mind

Hey y'all! Have you ever heard any of Tony Seba's talks on EV's, solar and batteries.? Pretty interesting stuff.

Its hard to tell, but the analysts that I have seen imply that wind and solar are some of the cheapest sources and they are getting cheaper. I do think that nuclear will still need to be used too.

Really? Just the energy though

What about batteries

My problem with the climate change shit is that it's allowed people to completely ignore other issues with pollution

I believe batteries are still lagging behind

Outside of like, the occasional oil spill

Yeah. The levelized cost of energy, or LCOE, of wind and solar are fairly cheap. Natural gas is about the same. That’s why so much coal has been shut down.

And then also place ridiculous importance on shit that has nothing to do with any of the stuff they're talking about, or runs counter to their goals

@Clay tony seba? Who’s that?

https://youtu.be/KVm74yE0aUE

Stanford Uni, I think.

@Beemann have you looked at the sierra clubs beyond coal campaign?

Realistically, we are about 3-5 years off electric cars going completely mainstream.

I drive one.

What model?

used volt, would like a Tesla, but I need a house more.

Yeah. Tesla’s are too expensive. I’d be willing to drive a bolt or something similar, even though I don’t like the look that much. I just can’t afford a new car right now. I want to though.

I'm sorry but I'm going to be one of those assholes who never gets a green car

I like my vroom vroom

And eeee eee doesn't cut it

@Holo lol. That’s fine. Do you own a truck? Right now, there aren’t any good ev trucks.

Nah

Sedan

I don't drive it to be green. It's just super cheap.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/conservatives-should-be-cautious-about-letter-from-christine-blasey-fords-ex-boyfriend

Super cheap, you mean after you buy it

https://youtu.be/Owm25OHGglk

take a look at that 180

This is an interesting talk about global warming.

I’ll lot at it later

@Holo do you race?

I wish lol

I have too many tickets to be stupid enough to do it now

$13k with 11k miles, getting 115miles to the gallon and only $15/month extra in elec.

3 speeding tickets is enough for me

Also who did you rob

My biggest concern is that the left will ban gas cars.