Me either. It how it gets achieved. That’s my issue.

But Jesus Christ when these people put _people_ at risk...

I personally care a lot about the environment, but I also care about personal liberty.

Mmm

@Deleted User here’s my list. It isn’t complete, but it’s generally true

>They assume that nobody wants to drive out of town to do things, which is why half of them think that there only needs to be charging stations at home and work.

>they act as if going to the gas station is some awful, obnoxious event; even though fast charging stations will still be used.

>if you say something positive about hydrogen fuel cells, they freak out on you.

>the only reason why electric vehicles haven’t been getting any success until now is fossil fuel conspiracy theories; nothing to do with changes in battery technology.

>conflate externalities with subsidies, as if they are the same thing.

>assume that everyone will be driving an electric vehicle in 20 years because reasons.

@Salacious Swanky Cat yeah, I agree with it completely

Funnily enough the most annoying bits are the last two points lol

@SteelandSouls hey, remember that conversation we had about the IG report and the Russia investigation?

I think I mentioned a discussion with someone whose standard was, “Yeah, but who’s been arrested, hmmmmmmm?”

@Deleted User yeah. It gets worse though. The 100% wind water and solar people also assume that people will willfully give up their ev battery as a grid resource when they aren’t driving.

we will hence further use the power of positive thinking

Isn't Tesla as a company being completely propped up by government subsidies?

In other news, I got blocked by Samwise Gamgee for pointing out to him why his political shilling isn't working.

I wasn't even mean.

Samwise Gamgee is a real person?

@wolfman1911 I was under the impression of the same

@Salacious Swanky Cat so basically... they’re promoting that people buy electric cars and then not use those electric cars (which already have limited range to begin with) and turn people into introverts

Social engineering anyone?

I mean I’m leaning more towards that side myself but _holy shit_ the authoritarianism is strong with these cunts

@Deleted User not exactly that. They are relying on people having their EVs plugged in whenever not in use in order to make their 100% wind water and solar goal work out.

@Salacious Swanky Cat won’t that reduce the life of the batteries?

@Deleted User possibly, but the real question is how tens of thousands of people would want to dedicate their car to providing this service for chump change every month. You would have to somehow supply(/absorb?) at least 10 kWh/day all year before it made sense. (Around 620 $/year at .17 c/kWh). These jokers believe that renewables will ultimately cost about 3 c/kwh, which comes out to 110 $/year for 10 kWh/day 365. How many people do you think will be able to do that or would be willing to do that? This is all assuming that the price you get is the same as retail. Very few in my opinion. The only way is to subsidize it to hell.

Wind and solar are pretty shite tbh

@Salacious Swanky Cat which is what they did in Germany with solar, and look at how that's turning out...

And to an extent Australia's trying the same thing too, and it's causing me concern

Well Germany’s (and China’s) subsidies brought the cost of solar down for everyone; it was really expensive though.

@Salacious Swanky Cat on the topic of cars, I'm wanting to start up another mini collection, but focusing more on Holdens/Mercs/BMW's in this instance

I still have two Audi's and the Mazda as mentioned, but one is lent to a mate of mine as a rental car, so that's making money at least

And yeah, but did it actually solve their energy problems?

Not from what I've seen, although I have to admit I've done nothing more than cursory reading on the subject

@Deleted User well, Germany does have a lower solar resource than the US or Australia, yet it still produces a substantial amount of electricity. The idiots shut down all of their nuclear plants instead of their coal plants. That is why they are a failure.

Mmm, because nuclear is ebil

The environmentalists hate nuclear more than they hate Coal

Dr. Phil just aired an episode about White Privilege. A panel of 6 different leftists on there. Only dissent is from the studio audience

Michael Eric Dyson is also on that panel

Is that the guy who accused Peterson of being an angry white man?

Bingo

If academia had any integrity they would strip that race baiting huckster of any title or degree

Well, Sean Astin, was pimping out some local political race and was bitching about how people weren't responding so much to it, because he apparently doesn't realize that the people that follow him live all across the world, and don't necessarily give a damn about who he thinks they should be voting for.

I pointed out that the people that follow him on twitter do so more because they look at his profile and see Samwise Gamgee or Rudy, rather than for his learned political philosophy, and he blocked me for it.

I also wonder how many people hate follow groups like the young turks