Nevermind the battery production is worse than anything regular fossil fuels will ever have on its record...

Everyone just owns Civics in Canada

Ugh. You should see the attitude on some of these forums. Tesla is practically a religion for them. Question it and they freak out.

It would be the perfect getaway driver car

@Beemann I heard

I’m not a big fan of Honda’s in general though

More an Audi/Holden kinda guy

There's not enough room in a Tesla if you have testicles

@Deleted User that’s not exactly true, battery production is less impactful than fossil fuels.

@Salacious Swanky Cat oh? Even with the rare earth mining involved?

@Salacious Swanky Cat on a more practical note, I used to work in a panel/body shop before I opened my takeaway, and we had to fix several Tesla’s

@Deleted User yes, mining is involved, but it will ultimately be for less physical material than fossil fuels. Plus it can be recycled. The obnoxious attitudes of ev supporters try to make it sound like nothing happens.

Parts were just high retard in terms of sourcing, each one had to sit in our garage for _at least six months_ before we got anywhere near fixing it

By the time we get the parts, the starter battery would be long dead, ie we had to order them too

Which would take another month or two before we get them

The worst was a car we got in in January 2017; the car was brought back to the customer in April 2018

@Deleted User yes, the success of tesla is definitely questionable because they are nowhere near prime time, but that’s not an indictment of the technology.

Fair enough

But yeah, it’s that side of it that’s convinced me never to get one

Nothing beats the note on a good old V8 or higher engine, too

😛

I’m not buying a Tesla either.

Lol. I personally want people to buy EVs because of the technology’s merit. I don’t want mandates for them. The ev enthusiasts want mandates. I’m concerned about it.

Haha, _wow_

That’s... Huh

Well what do you know, environmentalists being all commie

What a surprise

Yeah. Most people would buy EVs anyways once the infrastructure gets put in place and the cars reduce in price some. Most people (like me) aren’t big car enthusiasts.

It’s all point a to b for me.

@Salacious Swanky Cat right, and people are being turned off of the concept because of idiots

@Deleted User yeah it’s frustrating. I don’t know if you saw my list of grievances earlier, but the enthusiasts may ruin it for everyone if they get in control. No lie.

To clarify, on the whole topic of environmentalism, I don’t see anything wrong with conservation efforts

Me either. It how it gets achieved. That’s my issue.

But Jesus Christ when these people put _people_ at risk...

I personally care a lot about the environment, but I also care about personal liberty.

Mmm

@Deleted User here’s my list. It isn’t complete, but it’s generally true

>They assume that nobody wants to drive out of town to do things, which is why half of them think that there only needs to be charging stations at home and work.

>they act as if going to the gas station is some awful, obnoxious event; even though fast charging stations will still be used.

>if you say something positive about hydrogen fuel cells, they freak out on you.

>the only reason why electric vehicles haven’t been getting any success until now is fossil fuel conspiracy theories; nothing to do with changes in battery technology.

>conflate externalities with subsidies, as if they are the same thing.

>assume that everyone will be driving an electric vehicle in 20 years because reasons.

@Salacious Swanky Cat yeah, I agree with it completely

Funnily enough the most annoying bits are the last two points lol

@SteelandSouls hey, remember that conversation we had about the IG report and the Russia investigation?

I think I mentioned a discussion with someone whose standard was, “Yeah, but who’s been arrested, hmmmmmmm?”