@Deleted User totally agree. Atheism has no good arguments. Agnosticism is far more defensible

@Shadows Thankfully, I was able to survive my Skeptic phase. Those times were not something to be proud of lol

when you take things to their logical conclusion, you become a caricature

@RoadtoDawn yes people conflate the two. It’s dumb and done on purpose.

Skeptics have the same problem as classical liberals in that it's all incoherence

is this whole DST thing throwing everyone else off too? I feel lost without my Matt & Blonde fix already lol

I probably won’t watch all of it because I like sleep. Lol

@RoadtoDawn what’s incoherent about classical liberalism?

It's a cult of reason, materialism

@Salacious Swanky Cat I don't think that is true. I can make a great case for either of those. But i do agree that agnosticism is more understandable.

They try to make logical arguments that forsake the transcendental, while simultaneously making a transcendental argument

It's like the ultimate existential blue pill

@RoadtoDawn I guess that makes sense. I was thinking the limit would be how to establish barriers when things get to far and be consistent. For example, allowing all types of relationships to exist, which includes incest.

Sadly the principles I'm talking about are pretty esoteric. Most people aren't aware that the ideas they have possess meaning and signify things beyond the scope of the context they're in

@Shadows atheism requires faith while criticizing religion for acknowledging that faith is required. You can make a case for not believing in a particular religion, but not about God not existing. The reason is that an atheist is always attacking a strawman.

things are generally used for utility, just to make things easier

my only problem is when they try to make existential arguments based on that

I'm not a fan of any side has all the answers to everything (mainly because its not true heh).

@Shadows right. That’s why agnosticism is defensible.

It doesn’t claim to know everything

@RoadtoDawn utilitarianism is dangerous too.

@Salacious Swanky Cat You may have atheism and anti-theism mixed together.

@Shadows no I don’t. Atheism is the claim that God doesn’t exist. That claim requires attacking strawmans because what is God?

@Shadows anti-theists are people angry at God and hate God, so they want to ruin religion for everyone.

@Salacious Swanky Cat The definition changed to mean a lack of belief, but it's a distinction without a difference. Whether someone claims there is no God or whether they simply lack enough evidence to believe, both are living without God

Both are living a materialist lifestyle

@RoadtoDawn so are agnostics. They don’t know if God exists, but live without God.

5 more minutes, yaaaaaay

please send me the link to the stream

youtube is blocking me from watching it

https://youtu.be/fvqWaANFLck

thanks

Ahhh

I like watching live but I also like listening on Monday mornings

Matt is proposing to his girlfriend on his special vacation.

LOL I love this video

"Nazis are shooting my people. I don't give a damn"

Lol.

@RoadtoDawn ‘everyone I disagree with is a Nazi’

He took it like a champ

Seems like that was his fantasy, no way anyone would reasonably let that happen