Message from @Deleted User

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2018-11-14 21:04:38 UTC  

First is just because I’ve only been in and out of Australia for the past eleven years doesn’t mean I don’t understand the dynamic of politics here, which is basically left wing lite and psychotic commie wannabes

2018-11-14 21:05:41 UTC  

The second is when I pointed out to him that the premise of cutting welfare programs was to stop the whole country from going bankrupt, he got visibly upset and asked me when I got here

2018-11-14 21:06:11 UTC  

Upon which his point was that the moment I got to Australia was when Labor was going through some shit, but it was all because of the Liberals

2018-11-14 21:06:43 UTC  

Cordial except for the "You're an outsider and don't know what you're talking about" part

2018-11-14 21:07:16 UTC  

And I’m like well... but the point is that even before that _both_ of them have been steadily driving us off a financial cliff, and only the Liberals have any sort of plan/have done anything even remotely resembling addressing the problem of spending

2018-11-14 21:07:33 UTC  

Yeah p much

2018-11-14 21:08:00 UTC  

And it expanded to the whole “but you gotta take care of the people who can’t help themselves” schtick

2018-11-14 21:08:15 UTC  

You have to....at gun point

2018-11-14 21:08:22 UTC  

And I’m like yes, but the best way to do that is to cut taxes from the people who already have work

2018-11-14 21:08:31 UTC  

“No but those cuts only benefit the rich”

2018-11-14 21:08:39 UTC  

And at that point I realized it was a lost cause

2018-11-14 21:09:44 UTC  

Isn't it great when people are so deluded that they default to rhetoric even though they can see the evidence for themselves?

2018-11-14 21:09:59 UTC  

I just... I don’t think I’ve had a clearer picture of cognitive dissonance in my personal life before

2018-11-14 21:10:16 UTC  

Please flip Talking Points Cassette to Side B

2018-11-14 21:11:30 UTC  

And the funny thing is, in my uni years, I had a long form discussion with this French guy where he insisted you can tax _only_ the rich and get away with a fuckton of social programs “just like France”

2018-11-14 21:12:00 UTC  

And I’m like yeah but the average tax rate there for _everyone_ is like 70% and it’s still slowly going bankrupt

2018-11-14 21:12:04 UTC  

What idiots. They can’t even do basic math.

2018-11-14 21:12:10 UTC  

French have a nasty habit of constantly citing France

2018-11-14 21:12:29 UTC  

I should know, I've worked with one for 2 years

2018-11-14 21:13:19 UTC  

I worked with one who genuinely believed and claimed that France did nothing wrong in Indo China

2018-11-14 21:14:03 UTC  

I agreed with her that France brought a different level of civilisation to that entire area, but it also pretty much destroyed the culture and oppressed the people

2018-11-14 21:14:14 UTC  

And she was... not very accepting of that fact

2018-11-14 21:14:29 UTC  

Seriously? If they did nothing wrong, then how did they lose? Lol - jk.

2018-11-14 21:15:03 UTC  

But... you know what I mean right?

2018-11-14 21:15:21 UTC  

Like the whole cognitive dissonance thing is evident to people who don’t even recognise it

2018-11-14 21:15:38 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah. It was just a poorly constructed ‘the French suck at the military’ joke

2018-11-14 21:15:46 UTC  

But this elderly customer had a moment where he’s like... “Ah!”

2018-11-14 21:16:04 UTC  

And you can actually see him physically shift gears in his head to try and make sense of what he’s saying

2018-11-14 21:16:12 UTC  

And it was discomforting, for me

2018-11-14 21:17:18 UTC  

In other words, this was a guy who _wasn’t_ an NPC, but fell in line like one when presented with evidence that ran contrary to what he believed

2018-11-14 21:19:13 UTC  

Yeah. That’s sad. I comment on an energy news site and see people like that a lot.

2018-11-14 21:19:41 UTC  

On an off-topic for a quick moment. I have recording working on a Private Server @Deleted User @Salacious Swanky Cat

2018-11-14 21:20:09 UTC  

Really? Did you just make another server?

2018-11-14 21:20:19 UTC  

@SteelandSouls fucking mint mate

2018-11-14 21:20:23 UTC  

Made another server, added a bot. 1, 2, 3

2018-11-14 21:21:38 UTC  

Super easy right? Too bad it took Anita sarkesian 25k to do it. Lol

2018-11-14 21:22:00 UTC  

Didn't spend a penny to do it and it took her 25k to not deliver

2018-11-14 21:22:56 UTC  

Lol.

2018-11-14 21:23:37 UTC  

Ouch

2018-11-14 21:28:20 UTC  

And the most frustrating thing is

2018-11-14 21:28:38 UTC  

We had a discussion a few weeks ago about taxes and all that