Message from @grant
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Isn’t LaVeyan Satanism or whatever it’s called supposed to be focused on the individual
Why is still overwhelmingly overrun with socialist cunts
They’re _already_ pretty much worshipping themselves and the “base humanity represented in Satan”
@Beemann I do not. I think the numbers show secular people clearly lean towards socialism. Doesn't mean some don't lean towards individualism. If a larger number don't move towards individualism we get socialism/communism and death. Hence, we need a secular movement towards individualism.
What I think your average person wants is enough space to do their own thing without being isolated
So Nietzsche?
Doing their own things means other people pay for their crap apparently.
You can see that even amongst socjus tbh. They want people to let them be genderfluid otherkin, but they don't want to be otherkin on their own
Sometimes it means wanting to have other people pay for your stuff yes
Is that why transgender are demanding I suck their dick? they want to be left alone.
It’s like they want to be a part of something bigger than themselves but they can’t establish any real meaning because there’s no foundation for their it.
They want to be able to do their thing without the negative effects of a thing
They clearly do not want to be isolated
hmm so socializing their bad decisions. so much individualism
Well I think they haven't been presented with a convincing case that it is a bad decision
Oh because they also demand anyone questions it be shut down. more individualism
Individualism cannot argue against self harm effectively.
And what all powerful being do they demand do these things? Praise be government.
You say that like theocracies aren't a thing
We're not a theocracy
No, because the government decided to secularize
During the formation of both nations
Theocracies are a thing. Not all religions are the same though.
Praise be government. deliver me from these nazis. We need a singular one world government so everyone must worship and follow the rules I demand.
but Christians are just as bad right Beeman.
Buddhists too right?
Where did these goalposts go?
>religion is the solution to the problem
>no it isn't
>where's the Christian world government tho?
Religion bad >:^(
It sounds like the argument is whether or not to impose a spiritual discipline to a spiritless society
My point was people distracted by milquetoast religion tend not to worship the state.
I'm not sure that it stays milquetoast when given more influence
in the absence of religion people tend to start worshiping the state
Something proven to be far worse
That’s one of the reasons why the Soviets tried to remove religion from the Russians.
And Nazi plans for after the war
Hell, they made a nazi Protestant church
When people stop looking up, the only place they can look is around.
or worse...down
I'm so sick of the idea of separation of church and state being about just protecting the state from the church. To quote a Swede "They really got their grip on power, they exterminated the Swedish state church, so they basically killed God and replaced him with the Social Democratic Party. That's why for most Swedes, Social Democracy is more of a religion than an actual political philosophy. "
Be man, it sounds as if you’re looking for a perfect solution. That isn’t going to happen. I’m not saying that religion is always going to work for every single individual. The reason why is because people are sinful by nature. What that means is that they’re going to make poor decisions and stray away from the truth. Nobody is immune to it. That doesn’t make religion invalid.