Message from @grant

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2018-11-20 22:25:39 UTC  

Isn’t LaVeyan Satanism or whatever it’s called supposed to be focused on the individual

2018-11-20 22:25:51 UTC  

Why is still overwhelmingly overrun with socialist cunts

2018-11-20 22:26:13 UTC  

They’re _already_ pretty much worshipping themselves and the “base humanity represented in Satan”

2018-11-20 22:26:16 UTC  

@Beemann I do not. I think the numbers show secular people clearly lean towards socialism. Doesn't mean some don't lean towards individualism. If a larger number don't move towards individualism we get socialism/communism and death. Hence, we need a secular movement towards individualism.

2018-11-20 22:26:31 UTC  

What I think your average person wants is enough space to do their own thing without being isolated

2018-11-20 22:26:38 UTC  

So Nietzsche?

2018-11-20 22:26:54 UTC  

Doing their own things means other people pay for their crap apparently.

2018-11-20 22:27:21 UTC  

You can see that even amongst socjus tbh. They want people to let them be genderfluid otherkin, but they don't want to be otherkin on their own

2018-11-20 22:28:38 UTC  

Sometimes it means wanting to have other people pay for your stuff yes

2018-11-20 22:28:44 UTC  

Is that why transgender are demanding I suck their dick? they want to be left alone.

2018-11-20 22:28:46 UTC  

It’s like they want to be a part of something bigger than themselves but they can’t establish any real meaning because there’s no foundation for their it.

2018-11-20 22:29:09 UTC  

They want to be able to do their thing without the negative effects of a thing

2018-11-20 22:29:22 UTC  

They clearly do not want to be isolated

2018-11-20 22:29:37 UTC  

hmm so socializing their bad decisions. so much individualism

2018-11-20 22:29:59 UTC  

Well I think they haven't been presented with a convincing case that it is a bad decision

2018-11-20 22:30:20 UTC  

Oh because they also demand anyone questions it be shut down. more individualism

2018-11-20 22:30:47 UTC  

Individualism cannot argue against self harm effectively.

2018-11-20 22:31:05 UTC  

And what all powerful being do they demand do these things? Praise be government.

2018-11-20 22:31:26 UTC  

You say that like theocracies aren't a thing

2018-11-20 22:31:39 UTC  

We're not a theocracy

2018-11-20 22:31:45 UTC  

canada or usa

2018-11-20 22:31:54 UTC  

No, because the government decided to secularize

2018-11-20 22:32:05 UTC  

During the formation of both nations

2018-11-20 22:32:38 UTC  

Theocracies are a thing. Not all religions are the same though.

2018-11-20 22:33:45 UTC  

Praise be government. deliver me from these nazis. We need a singular one world government so everyone must worship and follow the rules I demand.
but Christians are just as bad right Beeman.

2018-11-20 22:34:00 UTC  

Buddhists too right?

2018-11-20 22:34:06 UTC  

Where did these goalposts go?

2018-11-20 22:34:31 UTC  

>religion is the solution to the problem
>no it isn't
>where's the Christian world government tho?

2018-11-20 22:35:35 UTC  

Religion bad >:^(

2018-11-20 22:35:37 UTC  

It sounds like the argument is whether or not to impose a spiritual discipline to a spiritless society

2018-11-20 22:35:47 UTC  

My point was people distracted by milquetoast religion tend not to worship the state.

2018-11-20 22:36:14 UTC  

I'm not sure that it stays milquetoast when given more influence

2018-11-20 22:36:22 UTC  

in the absence of religion people tend to start worshiping the state

2018-11-20 22:36:33 UTC  

Something proven to be far worse

2018-11-20 22:36:47 UTC  

That’s one of the reasons why the Soviets tried to remove religion from the Russians.

2018-11-20 22:37:07 UTC  

And Nazi plans for after the war

2018-11-20 22:37:21 UTC  

Hell, they made a nazi Protestant church

2018-11-20 22:37:37 UTC  

When people stop looking up, the only place they can look is around.

2018-11-20 22:37:45 UTC  

or worse...down

2018-11-20 22:39:37 UTC  

I'm so sick of the idea of separation of church and state being about just protecting the state from the church. To quote a Swede "They really got their grip on power, they exterminated the Swedish state church, so they basically killed God and replaced him with the Social Democratic Party. That's why for most Swedes, Social Democracy is more of a religion than an actual political philosophy. "

2018-11-20 22:39:45 UTC  

Be man, it sounds as if you’re looking for a perfect solution. That isn’t going to happen. I’m not saying that religion is always going to work for every single individual. The reason why is because people are sinful by nature. What that means is that they’re going to make poor decisions and stray away from the truth. Nobody is immune to it. That doesn’t make religion invalid.