Message from @grant

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2018-11-28 18:46:40 UTC  

that last sentence doesn't really make sense, it would mean you can't praise anything good trump is doing either. (which is fine if you take that stance for both).

2018-11-28 18:48:02 UTC  

I’m saying in the long run. How do we know what policies work and which ones don’t? That’s what I’m talking about. Short term stuff like saying due process is good or protecting it is a different thing.

2018-11-28 18:49:36 UTC  

thats pretty true.....Can't really judge a President time they are out of office and can see how their policies and programs worked or didnt

2018-11-28 18:53:27 UTC  

I almost never blame anyone for everything , i don't blame Obama for everything he did(even tho its fun to say Thanks Obama, but i rarely say it) he did have people around him that helped with all the problems he enacted. But i was being for real, i can't think of anything Obama did that was good outside of getting Bin Laden.

2018-11-28 18:59:19 UTC  

Obama's legacy is almost forever gone, almost everything he set up has been brought down already (outside of a few big things we know of).

2018-11-28 19:01:17 UTC  

Which is also a bad part of Trump doing a lot of things by executive order.

2018-11-28 19:03:24 UTC  

Obama set the precedent of using executive orders like that.

2018-11-28 19:04:08 UTC  

I really liked President Obama

2018-11-28 19:04:17 UTC  

And President Bush too

2018-11-28 19:04:29 UTC  

I know, tho Bush did start it a bit. But that's why they were taken away so easily by Trump.

2018-11-28 19:05:07 UTC  

Obama will likely go down as the worst President ever..... And i'm not saying that lightly.

2018-11-28 19:06:24 UTC  

Lmao

2018-11-28 19:07:31 UTC  

The clean power plan was poorly structured

2018-11-28 19:12:16 UTC  

His biggest achievements,
Iran deal, gone
Paris climate accord, gone
Pushed illegal immigration, *crosses fingers* Wall
Obama Care, should be gone if trump gets another terms (if not sooner)
I could add more but will stop heh.

2018-11-28 19:15:57 UTC  

Obama wasn't the worst prez ever their were a few terrible ones in the run up to the civil war

2018-11-28 19:16:33 UTC  

Modern prez....sure that arguement can be made

2018-11-28 19:17:47 UTC  

Yes, we have had many poor Presidents. It is really hard to compare them all evenly.

2018-11-28 19:17:57 UTC  

Yeah, I didn't like obama but not worst president. Plenty of bad presidents.

2018-11-28 19:19:31 UTC  

I'd put Martin Van Buren as worst than Obama

2018-11-28 19:19:54 UTC  

I like Obamacare

2018-11-28 19:20:00 UTC  

I personally dislike Wilson, FDR and LBJ.

2018-11-28 19:20:03 UTC  

uwu

2018-11-28 19:20:14 UTC  

I love Wilson and FDR

2018-11-28 19:20:52 UTC  

FDR is in my top five

2018-11-28 19:20:58 UTC  

I'm okay with Thomas Sowell's pick as the worst president.

2018-11-28 19:21:12 UTC  

What was his pick?

2018-11-28 19:21:19 UTC  

Obama

2018-11-28 19:21:28 UTC  

:)>

2018-11-28 19:21:37 UTC  

Daayum.

2018-11-28 19:22:18 UTC  

But I like a strong Presidency

2018-11-28 19:22:34 UTC  

Woodrow Wilson was quoted as President as saying "The scope of the Presidents Power should only be limited by his vision." He was a scary President

2018-11-28 19:22:58 UTC  

*awesome

2018-11-28 19:23:27 UTC  

You can thank Wilson with things like....The income tax......The Federal Reserve.....Prohibition....

2018-11-28 19:23:41 UTC  

All good things

2018-11-28 19:23:50 UTC  

What's the issue?

2018-11-28 19:23:57 UTC  

Prohibition a good thing?

2018-11-28 19:24:15 UTC  

I don't drink

2018-11-28 19:24:17 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-28 19:24:23 UTC  

Oh, i forgot another important thing for the list,
Title IX taking away due process will hopefully be gone soon.

2018-11-28 19:24:25 UTC  

Okay, I'm teasing on that

2018-11-28 19:24:39 UTC  

He was racist even by the standards of his time.