Message from @SteelandSouls
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It's about the dysfunctional world in which he resides, and how he fucks what little order it has even further, and how other people react to that
There are many different ways to make a story work, if you feel it doesn't work for you. And that's perfectly fine, that doesn't mean it in fact fails at being a good story.
You hear that @Salacious Swanky Cat Art is subjective
@SteelandSouls same
No, straight up writing 101 is that your story needs to have stakes. You need some level of it that isn't base wish fulfillment
@SteelandSouls art is subjective my hairy ape butt.
It is.
What are the stakes when you give a minmaxed combat powerhouse combat challenges?
Fwiw this is what also ruined DBZ, along with resurrection abuse
Can this not become some super high number message debate? I don’t want all the notifications
Rock Lee is an example of a character that has growth and an actual set of challenges. He has nothing but effort and gets fucked for it. He Mumen Rider's through it
Mute?
No. Just take it to dm.
I'm not tagging you... why do we have to move
Get a room.
Other people can't hop in in DM, just mute general
Is ez
General chats are always the first ones I mute
Sargent at arms says get a room.
Feel free to do the same.
Before this degenerates into something stupid, Beemann is right that writing structure must have stakes and risks in order to tell a compelling story. As much as writing is art, it is also a science
Since it is art though, there are various types of ways of going about it
Kind of like baking in a way
@SteelandSouls no. Bad boy. I slap you. Lol
Anyway, what makes a story good is having the character overcome obstacles and grow as a result. The overcoming part is key. There needs to be a struggle
Inuyashiki does this well - the MC is nigh invincible, but struggles with his existence, not power growth
Or any series/episode where the MC has to deal with the consequences of his own destructive power, and how easy it is for him to accidentally obliterate others
What about inuyasha? Kagome is a needy skank. Lol
Villains have those arcs too. It's neat
I didn't watch it
Looked like boring weebshit and ran for too long
I kind of disagree @SteelandSouls. I can make many great stories that have no stakes what so every and make the story compelling. But it is true that art should follow a structure, but just because anyone doesn't like something that doesn't mean it fails at being art.
What's compelling about a conflict that isn't a struggle?
Even slice of life stories have a conflict
@Beemann There is not just One Way to make good stories... But there are a limited amount of ways to make them work well.
Right and the limits are that there needs to be some level of consequence
no
yes
There should be a Bad Thing that could actually happen
And a Good Thing that might happen that we root for
Arg. You guys.
These don't have to be 100% good and bad