Message from @SpanishAbbey

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2019-03-07 18:11:02 UTC  

Just mild curiosity; I stopped listening to Shapiro a while back and just don't remember anything he might have said about the topic.

2019-03-07 18:33:50 UTC  

@C1PHER mostly he just refuses to use their proper pronouns, even if they pass 100% and he is talking with them in person. Dick move bra

2019-03-07 18:34:44 UTC  

And

2019-03-07 18:35:55 UTC  

He says it's only about feels which ignores the biological facts that its about in utero fetal brain development. To ignore the fact ignores the brain differences between men and women. They are different, sorry not sorry

2019-03-07 18:37:54 UTC  

would you force him to use proper pronouns?

2019-03-07 18:39:54 UTC  

Hell no, but I can still disagree with him and think it's a dick move

2019-03-07 18:51:45 UTC  

fair enough

2019-03-07 19:03:55 UTC  

He kind of conceded maybe using preferred pronouns for someone he knew well who is convincingly transitioned when not in a public discussion in his debate with Blair White

2019-03-07 19:04:36 UTC  

I'm pretty sure his stance is he would be nice in close-quarters friendly settings. He would be practical, for example, if he had to ask a waiter where they were in a restaurant. And to their face he would have respect

2019-03-07 19:05:54 UTC  

And when it comes to policy, he would stick to data, facts. And surely he wouldn't give any of his free speech up

2019-03-07 19:07:19 UTC  

He also said something about being more open to the idea of using completely different pronouns for trans people than the pronouns for the other sex which I completely disagree with. I'm not going to use xim unironically. I also disagree with him that they can't be used as a singular pronoun

2019-03-07 19:08:04 UTC  

Oh, the moment xim becomes part of popular parlance, it's over

2019-03-07 19:08:53 UTC  

Then there will only be discussions about the individual pronouns, the gates would be wide open

2019-03-07 19:09:23 UTC  

I haven't heard him address the brain differences, Dr. Drew was about to ask him about it when he was threatened by OG Tranny Savage

2019-03-07 19:12:11 UTC  

I would say people with schizophrenia and OCD also have brains that look different under an MRI so it doesn't really convince me that it's not a mental disorder

2019-03-07 19:17:55 UTC  

👆 That's something I'd like to see explored more. Though I don't see it happening anytime soon while the LGBT-mafia holds so much sway.

2019-03-07 19:19:50 UTC  

Depression shows up differently under MRIs as well, doesn't mean we should support them in their depressive thoughts
"here's a gun, do what feels right for you"

2019-03-07 19:20:45 UTC  

I avoid pronouns altogether when it comes to transgenders, I will stick strictly to names

2019-03-07 19:21:14 UTC  

but even that won't protect you, some guy in Canada got attacked by the LGBT Maffia for it

2019-03-07 19:23:50 UTC  

That makes me thankful most public interactions with strangers don't involve pronouns, or repeating back names. It's mostly a greeting followed by the purpose of why I'm talking to them

2019-03-07 19:46:56 UTC  

I mean

2019-03-07 19:47:15 UTC  

A schizophrenic brain looks different from a normal brain

2019-03-07 19:47:36 UTC  

A trans man's brain just looks like a healthy, normal cis man's brain

2019-03-07 19:48:28 UTC  

So it's not that something is broken, it's still a healthy, normal brain

2019-03-07 19:48:49 UTC  

Minus any other things like depression etc, but not every tranner has that

2019-03-07 19:48:50 UTC  

Can you tell from a brain scan if someone is legit trans?

2019-03-07 19:49:05 UTC  

I know you’ve mentioned “wiring” in the womb

2019-03-07 19:49:41 UTC  

I'm not sure if an mri at this point, all the studies were very in depth using dead people s brains

2019-03-07 19:50:09 UTC  

Oh ok

2019-03-07 19:51:12 UTC  

The controls normally use cis, and the test are identified trans women and men, both ones with life long hormone use and those who never did any form of transition to control for HRT

2019-03-07 19:52:17 UTC  

It's the reason TERFs are so anti trans. We help provide that male and female brains are biological and significantly different

2019-03-07 19:53:27 UTC  

And I would rather go to jail than use any of the made up pronouns

2019-03-07 19:58:03 UTC  

Assuming this is true, and I have no real reason to believe it isn’t, then there may be a tranny middle ground I’m about to occupy

2019-03-07 19:59:31 UTC  

If you can prove you have a female brain and a penis, I’ll gladly abide by preferences. If you can’t, or worse, you prove otherwise, then I can now disregard your ridiculous charade

2019-03-07 19:59:36 UTC  

General “you” by the way

2019-03-07 19:59:43 UTC  

Not like I’m talking about you

2019-03-07 20:05:20 UTC  

No worries. Once the technology is there, @amlam, I fully agree with you

2019-03-07 20:05:34 UTC  

I **hate** trans trenders

2019-03-07 20:05:41 UTC  

Hate hate hate

2019-03-07 20:05:43 UTC  

Of course. I’m not trying to do a witch trial thing where we crack open everyone’s skulls

2019-03-07 20:06:04 UTC  

Lol