But tbh I don't see anything else working nonviolently there.

But ya, why call yourself one thing, while trying to do another.

To fool people.

Pretty much.

"Government needs to take the lead in truly caring for all human life, ensuring those without a voice are protected from any form of harm"
Oof

And again, it depends. I could sell you on any number of ideas from multiple perspectives, including contradictory ones, without telling you anything untrue

Potentially sell at least

Try to sell
100% guaranteed sell is a bit much ;)

Yeah, I'm a little black pilled on ZA though.

At this point, I'm like, "Go for it, it literally could not be worse."

Although a bunch of Nigerian Muslims apparently have their own neighborhood now in Joburg.

Like there's a neighborhood over the hill by the Vodacom tower where a couple blocks are purely Nigerian Muslims.

And in what is the equivalent of Gotham City, it's the Gotham of Gotham.

A family I know from DRC had to move to Kempton Park to get away from all that noise.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_gOmX78LTU
Additionally, this is the thousandth time that police corruption has been a political agenda people care about. With no plans in action yet again.

@Mongo Jongo ZA?

South Africa is also called Zoit Africa

idk if it's Afrikaans

Or what

But South African websites still use that in their URLS

So blah blah blah .co.za

or blah blah blah .co/za

@Mongo Jongo It has some nice things in its Key Issues, i'm not sure about the getting rid of race on documents tho, but maybe it would be good for them....

Yeah, we'll see if anything gets done.

Most of the time I was there people were like, "Oh they're finally organizing a deportation office just down there"

And that was back in 2013 , and to this day there's been zero new offices to deal with deportation of illegal immigrants anywhere in Midrand/ Joburg/ Kempton Park/ Centurion/ Witbank /Mokopane, literally anywhere where it counts.

Currently the process usually is just to throw immigrants in jail without documentation.

They serve under "Jon Doe" or whatever they choose to write, they serve a sentence for some rando crime, and then they are let back out onto the street.

Also, sorry for hijacking the chat to talk about South Africa again

It's been eating me up and none of my friends care about South Africa at all.

Haha

Its great to let people know.

I think it's good to be informed for sure. Especially when the policy in South Africa directly affects us economically.

ugh the South Africa shit, I'm an Aussie and our government opened it's doors to the fleeing white farmers and got labelled racist for it

nothing quite like white people calling white people racist for saving white people from being slaughtered

I myself don't like to look at things economically first (that would be a secondary or so factor).

@Lord Zedd Stop trying to save people whitty.

You would think Holland would take them in, aren't most of those people ethnically Dutch?

Dutch and English yeah, but you know something something evil white people

From what I've seen a lot of Dutch people think Afrikaanz people are just loud and annoying.

Afrikaanz and dutch have a lot of overlap, but culturally they're very different.