>hurr durr it isnt human nature
>suddenly almost every single nation outlaws murder, rape, slavery, etc.
>Not human nature

MORALITY ~principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

it's been universally decided by all societies all communities that murder is immoral, it's why it's a crime

Morality is objective. Whether or not you know those moral values is the only subjective thing

hmm it's starting to thunder here I might have to log soon

Morality can only function as an absolute

it hasn't been universally decided because many people think killing certain people is ok.

lol

So if all your friends jumped off a cliff would you?

no, he's not arguing for morality by majority

fuck all my friends are dead so probably.

no they think they're justified in doing so, at ignoring the morality because of their beliefs

do they think murdering anyone is ok or just a certain person or group?

he's just not making any case for subjective morality over objective, but that's also because nobody is stating an actual concrete position

@Beemann That's ultimately what subjective morality leads to: might make right

slavery used to be moral now its not. morality changes.

it was never moral

no. the times change.

but it was practiced

some proposed moral frameworks are measurably better than others, by virtue of their consequences. Ergo there is a "correct" answer

you are all very closed minded.

lol

morality doesn't shift at all if it's one absolute standard

If everyone had different moral values on how we should run society, society would cease to exist. Countries with "different moral values" are simply countries with a lack of, or an abundance of certain moral values over others. Every single citizen of that society holds those same morsl values, and thats the main reason why that society is able to stand. Morality cannot be subjective, if it were, nations could not exist. Period.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

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You are a fool

the fuking definition of morality

there are people in comas that have more neurons firing in their brains than you

If everyone had different moral values on how we should run society, society would cease to exist. Countries with "different moral values" are simply countries with a lack of, or an abundance of certain moral values over others. Every single citizen of that society holds those same morsl values, and thats the main reason why that society is able to stand. Morality cannot be subjective, if it were, nations could not exist. Period.

do my actions hurt this other person or group?
if the answer is yes than that is immoral

hurt is too vague

harm

do you need to be fed through a fucking straw dude? where is your helper?

still vague. Your poor definition has caused me emotional harm, bigot :^)

fair enough

but I think you're aiming at the right sentiment overall