do they think murdering anyone is ok or just a certain person or group?

he's just not making any case for subjective morality over objective, but that's also because nobody is stating an actual concrete position

@Beemann That's ultimately what subjective morality leads to: might make right

slavery used to be moral now its not. morality changes.

it was never moral

no. the times change.

but it was practiced

some proposed moral frameworks are measurably better than others, by virtue of their consequences. Ergo there is a "correct" answer

you are all very closed minded.

lol

morality doesn't shift at all if it's one absolute standard

If everyone had different moral values on how we should run society, society would cease to exist. Countries with "different moral values" are simply countries with a lack of, or an abundance of certain moral values over others. Every single citizen of that society holds those same morsl values, and thats the main reason why that society is able to stand. Morality cannot be subjective, if it were, nations could not exist. Period.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

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You are a fool

the fuking definition of morality

there are people in comas that have more neurons firing in their brains than you

If everyone had different moral values on how we should run society, society would cease to exist. Countries with "different moral values" are simply countries with a lack of, or an abundance of certain moral values over others. Every single citizen of that society holds those same morsl values, and thats the main reason why that society is able to stand. Morality cannot be subjective, if it were, nations could not exist. Period.

do my actions hurt this other person or group?
if the answer is yes than that is immoral

hurt is too vague

harm

do you need to be fed through a fucking straw dude? where is your helper?

still vague. Your poor definition has caused me emotional harm, bigot :^)

fair enough

but I think you're aiming at the right sentiment overall

0w0

hmm just trying to find the right phrasing

i thought this was the high iq skeptic server but you are all just jerking each other off.

lolwut

>everyone disagrees with me
>I called them dumb and they didnt flip
>this must be a circlejerk

"high iq"

who even uses that label?

rofl

principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior. different people will have different views on whats right and wrong.

Steve Shives is a "skeptic"

lol. Imagine thinking subjective morailty is a high iq position

IQ tests only measure for those that can take the IQ test well