Message from @Mandatory Carry

Discord ID: 568175273820946450


2019-04-17 20:35:55 UTC  

Remorse is an argument about the role of criminal justice is it reform or punitive? Hate crimes have nothing to do with reform, its all punitive

2019-04-17 20:36:20 UTC  

the important word in the concept of criminal justice is justice

2019-04-17 20:37:25 UTC  

The system is meant to serve justice. which Intent can and is used to determine what is required of the system.

2019-04-17 20:39:09 UTC  

so say you put pig bloods on a mosques door handle. without ideology involved it would be a simple vandalism

2019-04-17 20:39:41 UTC  

this is where the concept of hate crime, ideology, and intent would come into factors.

2019-04-17 20:40:03 UTC  

It still comes down to the question of wether or not you can have a hate crime in the absence of any other crime. If you can then your punishing idealogy. If you can't them your creating a double jeopardy scenario

2019-04-17 20:40:51 UTC  

Pigs blood on a mosque door is simply vandalism

2019-04-17 20:41:35 UTC  

yea but mussies touching pigs blood condemns them to hell

2019-04-17 20:42:10 UTC  

in their ideology so its seen as a more obscene gesture then vandalism

2019-04-17 20:42:11 UTC  

Doesnt matter, the state is not supposed to interpret or enforce religion

2019-04-17 20:42:43 UTC  

a religion is free from the state, a state is not neccesarily free from religion

2019-04-17 20:43:22 UTC  

which we are actually seeing this play out in the courts today

2019-04-17 20:43:32 UTC  

So your saying if im uniquely offended by your action you should be uniquely punished?

2019-04-17 20:43:51 UTC  

if my intent was to uniquely offend you

2019-04-17 20:44:10 UTC  

Protecting omes right to religion is not the same thing as targeted justice based on religion

2019-04-17 20:44:21 UTC  

thats how the law is interpreted currently.

2019-04-17 20:44:41 UTC  

which I totally see the merit of your argument.

2019-04-17 20:44:52 UTC  

I know how its interpreted, my case was that it violates the bill of rights

2019-04-17 20:45:10 UTC  

problem is we gave women the vote, which allowed empathy to seep into the judiciary

2019-04-17 20:45:21 UTC  

repeal 19th amendment

2019-04-17 20:45:41 UTC  

¿When do y'all start filling the voice chat?

2019-04-17 20:46:24 UTC  

I start feeling it about a hald hour after i take my purple pill

2019-04-17 20:47:45 UTC  

but thanks for the discourse putz.

2019-04-17 20:48:18 UTC  

ima go weed my garden

2019-04-17 20:51:02 UTC  

Have fun, ive been procrastinating running, dont have the energy today and need to put in around 5 miles, can't seem to clear the first step, lol

2019-04-18 01:32:57 UTC  

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2019-04-18 01:41:58 UTC  

@Metamodern_Radio that goes in the @<#231936127378915328> channel.

2019-04-18 01:45:27 UTC  

holocaust was 9 gay dudes in a roller blading accident

2019-04-18 01:45:30 UTC  

roflmao

2019-04-18 02:04:41 UTC  

youtube chat is really mean... calling me autstic and toher mean things...

2019-04-18 02:05:36 UTC  

Well did you say something autistic? :^)

2019-04-18 02:05:46 UTC  

It's like 90% shitposting tbh fam

2019-04-18 02:06:07 UTC  

no... just quoated a very funny from an abridged youtube show

2019-04-18 02:06:18 UTC  

Yeah that'll do it

2019-04-18 02:07:18 UTC  

... i actualyl used to be a weeb. a weeb being a perosn wanting to be japanse... ive grown out of it... also saying im inot lolis,. Also this is a direct copy and paste from one. Oh gawd Anime people are tooo autistic to function

2019-04-18 02:08:32 UTC  

I would stay out of live chat if you're concerned about the things people will say to you

2019-04-18 02:08:51 UTC  

Alternatively embrace it and learn to not care

2019-04-18 02:09:23 UTC  

no its just the generalization of things.... i also dont get to socialize with alot of people

2019-04-18 02:09:55 UTC  

There's gonna be a lot of generalizations and sweeping statements in chat that will be out of view in seconds

2019-04-18 02:10:04 UTC  

Plus exaggeration is fun