Message from @Beemann
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On purpose, I think
and they cannot stand the socialist idpol nutjobs
I think then the only difference between leftwingers tho is their dedication to pragmatism vs idealism
And depending on how consistently an individual leftie adheres to principles, if they have any, is toward total obliteration of private property
eh, I think there are people who dont take up communal/state ownership as a principle, and there's also a difference re: freedom of speech and the like
old school lefties are more inclined to be pro-rights outside of property and maybe religious rights
eh
well in any case, it still seems that Left/Right is a useful distinction, but widely misunderstood, and used incorrectly
Now I realize too u can’t define Right-wing as property-rights-first
nope
ala Tucker
there's no consistent set of principles for either "side"
yes
but the Malice definition seems to be a good description
the principle is simply whether u are egalitarian-first, or recognize people are different not equal first
and u can get splintering ideologies based off those first two branches
well that also depends on what you mean by "people are equal"
legally, yes. On average people dont deviate that much for the most part. Even lefties though will ultimately admit that skill levels are different
yes? 😊
blank slatism is not universal on the left
That’s part of the speech
Which isn’t to say it’s morally wrong, it’s just part of the definition
I think you get people on the right who would also ask what you mean by equal
Sure
And i have to admit I’m sticking to a formula that I heard from Malice so I can’t own it, altho I do believe its accuracy
But the script is to simply restate the question. Part of the reason the test works is because u leave it to the subject to determine what u mean by “equal”
The frame they see “equality” in is indicative of the leftiness or rightiness
Speaking for myself,
I would consider first that peaceful society relies on treating everybody’s person and property with equal respect, and that this behavior is a given and doesn’t need explanation
Oh big correction here
The actual question is “Are some people better than others”
Sorry that’s actually a significant deviation”
Oh, then lefties will definitely say yes, because there's those evil nazi racist bigots :^)
That’s a fascinating answer
I’d even say that breaks the question
Good counterpoint
Anyway the natural rightwing answer is that some people are observably better than others
Whether it’s nature or environment, or other circumstances, that some people are better than others
Ana with the save https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evh3wvVQuI8
Can’t see the vid, low BW on LTE