Message from @Beemann

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2019-05-18 20:18:57 UTC  

On purpose, I think

2019-05-18 20:19:00 UTC  

and they cannot stand the socialist idpol nutjobs

2019-05-18 20:20:08 UTC  

I think then the only difference between leftwingers tho is their dedication to pragmatism vs idealism

2019-05-18 20:20:55 UTC  

And depending on how consistently an individual leftie adheres to principles, if they have any, is toward total obliteration of private property

2019-05-18 20:22:37 UTC  

eh, I think there are people who dont take up communal/state ownership as a principle, and there's also a difference re: freedom of speech and the like

2019-05-18 20:22:55 UTC  

old school lefties are more inclined to be pro-rights outside of property and maybe religious rights

2019-05-18 20:23:14 UTC  

eh

2019-05-18 20:23:45 UTC  

well in any case, it still seems that Left/Right is a useful distinction, but widely misunderstood, and used incorrectly

2019-05-18 20:24:08 UTC  

Now I realize too u can’t define Right-wing as property-rights-first

2019-05-18 20:24:14 UTC  

nope

2019-05-18 20:24:16 UTC  

ala Tucker

2019-05-18 20:24:24 UTC  

there's no consistent set of principles for either "side"

2019-05-18 20:24:30 UTC  

yes

2019-05-18 20:24:50 UTC  

but the Malice definition seems to be a good description

2019-05-18 20:25:21 UTC  

the principle is simply whether u are egalitarian-first, or recognize people are different not equal first

2019-05-18 20:25:54 UTC  

and u can get splintering ideologies based off those first two branches

2019-05-18 20:27:30 UTC  

well that also depends on what you mean by "people are equal"

2019-05-18 20:28:45 UTC  

legally, yes. On average people dont deviate that much for the most part. Even lefties though will ultimately admit that skill levels are different

2019-05-18 20:28:49 UTC  

yes? 😊

2019-05-18 20:28:53 UTC  

blank slatism is not universal on the left

2019-05-18 20:29:06 UTC  

and even when it is it's often selective

2019-05-18 20:31:13 UTC  

That’s part of the speech

2019-05-18 20:31:33 UTC  

Which isn’t to say it’s morally wrong, it’s just part of the definition

2019-05-18 20:32:28 UTC  

I think you get people on the right who would also ask what you mean by equal

2019-05-18 20:32:45 UTC  

Sure

2019-05-18 20:33:19 UTC  

And i have to admit I’m sticking to a formula that I heard from Malice so I can’t own it, altho I do believe its accuracy

2019-05-18 20:34:00 UTC  

But the script is to simply restate the question. Part of the reason the test works is because u leave it to the subject to determine what u mean by “equal”

2019-05-18 20:34:39 UTC  

The frame they see “equality” in is indicative of the leftiness or rightiness

2019-05-18 20:35:05 UTC  

Speaking for myself,

2019-05-18 20:35:59 UTC  

I would consider first that peaceful society relies on treating everybody’s person and property with equal respect, and that this behavior is a given and doesn’t need explanation

2019-05-18 20:36:21 UTC  

Oh big correction here

2019-05-18 20:36:38 UTC  

The actual question is “Are some people better than others”

2019-05-18 20:36:54 UTC  

Sorry that’s actually a significant deviation”

2019-05-18 20:37:03 UTC  

Oh, then lefties will definitely say yes, because there's those evil nazi racist bigots :^)

2019-05-18 20:37:33 UTC  

That’s a fascinating answer

2019-05-18 20:37:44 UTC  

I’d even say that breaks the question

2019-05-18 20:37:49 UTC  

Good counterpoint

2019-05-18 20:38:21 UTC  

Anyway the natural rightwing answer is that some people are observably better than others

2019-05-18 20:38:51 UTC  

Whether it’s nature or environment, or other circumstances, that some people are better than others

2019-05-18 20:40:06 UTC  
2019-05-18 20:40:32 UTC  

Can’t see the vid, low BW on LTE