Message from @Abstract Cossack

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2019-05-18 20:24:24 UTC  

there's no consistent set of principles for either "side"

2019-05-18 20:24:30 UTC  

yes

2019-05-18 20:24:50 UTC  

but the Malice definition seems to be a good description

2019-05-18 20:25:21 UTC  

the principle is simply whether u are egalitarian-first, or recognize people are different not equal first

2019-05-18 20:25:54 UTC  

and u can get splintering ideologies based off those first two branches

2019-05-18 20:27:30 UTC  

well that also depends on what you mean by "people are equal"

2019-05-18 20:28:45 UTC  

legally, yes. On average people dont deviate that much for the most part. Even lefties though will ultimately admit that skill levels are different

2019-05-18 20:28:49 UTC  

yes? 😊

2019-05-18 20:28:53 UTC  

blank slatism is not universal on the left

2019-05-18 20:29:06 UTC  

and even when it is it's often selective

2019-05-18 20:31:13 UTC  

That’s part of the speech

2019-05-18 20:31:33 UTC  

Which isn’t to say it’s morally wrong, it’s just part of the definition

2019-05-18 20:32:28 UTC  

I think you get people on the right who would also ask what you mean by equal

2019-05-18 20:32:45 UTC  

Sure

2019-05-18 20:33:19 UTC  

And i have to admit I’m sticking to a formula that I heard from Malice so I can’t own it, altho I do believe its accuracy

2019-05-18 20:34:00 UTC  

But the script is to simply restate the question. Part of the reason the test works is because u leave it to the subject to determine what u mean by “equal”

2019-05-18 20:34:39 UTC  

The frame they see “equality” in is indicative of the leftiness or rightiness

2019-05-18 20:35:05 UTC  

Speaking for myself,

2019-05-18 20:35:59 UTC  

I would consider first that peaceful society relies on treating everybody’s person and property with equal respect, and that this behavior is a given and doesn’t need explanation

2019-05-18 20:36:21 UTC  

Oh big correction here

2019-05-18 20:36:38 UTC  

The actual question is “Are some people better than others”

2019-05-18 20:36:54 UTC  

Sorry that’s actually a significant deviation”

2019-05-18 20:37:03 UTC  

Oh, then lefties will definitely say yes, because there's those evil nazi racist bigots :^)

2019-05-18 20:37:33 UTC  

That’s a fascinating answer

2019-05-18 20:37:44 UTC  

I’d even say that breaks the question

2019-05-18 20:37:49 UTC  

Good counterpoint

2019-05-18 20:38:21 UTC  

Anyway the natural rightwing answer is that some people are observably better than others

2019-05-18 20:38:51 UTC  

Whether it’s nature or environment, or other circumstances, that some people are better than others

2019-05-18 20:40:06 UTC  
2019-05-18 20:40:32 UTC  

Can’t see the vid, low BW on LTE

2019-05-18 20:40:45 UTC  

Is that the I’M BETTER THAN YOU rant?

2019-05-18 20:40:47 UTC  

RIP

2019-05-18 20:40:47 UTC  

yes

2019-05-18 20:41:01 UTC  

touche

2019-05-18 20:41:05 UTC  

the legend

2019-05-18 20:42:06 UTC  

But i think when Lefties talk about being better than someone, the only circumstance they use that os when they perceive someone else thinks they are superior in some way or that some people, even not them individually, are better, and that is the one cardinal sin of egalitarianism

2019-05-18 20:42:52 UTC  

So only in that circumstance do lefties think one person is better than another, inherently. When a person is not egalitarian, that is what makes them bad

2019-05-18 20:43:31 UTC  

There’s always at least one paradox in any set of logic and I think this is the paradox of Malice’s definition of left/right

2019-05-18 20:43:56 UTC  

I just prefer to not use left/right out of shitposting and have been slowly training myself to stop

2019-05-18 20:44:16 UTC  

But I have a nasty but not uncommon habit of picking up lingo from social circles

2019-05-18 20:44:17 UTC  

fair