Message from @Beemann
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Except that ancoms would probably claim to be for economic freedom
you can reword it
“Property rights” is probably a better description of the acis
*axis
but the crux of it is that property rights vs communal or state ownership is the issue
and then communal vs state is modified by centralized/decentralized power
Breaking; Terror attack in UK.
https://youtu.be/R9cZDDEtiWE
which is why putting Richard Spencer, who is like, a straight line on the right, in with someone like me, who leans towards a straightish line on the left, but not all the way over, makes less sense than comparing him to a socialist
who is going to be L/R/R
UK is going to get fucking people's militias and vigilante gangs if they dont smarten the fuck up
At least they got themselves a few Gadsden flags to spur some esprit de corps
took them a few centuries but at least some of the see the light
Still not sure what to make of continuing to use left/right in political discussion. I think the Asian Capitalists were on to something to present the idea of a Political Triangle vs political compass
Ultimately, left-wing logic seems to inevitably lead to Socialist ideology, but being Right wing doesn’t indicate a unified ideology, the only thing in common is opposition to the Left
thats why I think it's a worthless scale
Depending on your preference to authority, you can span from Absolute Monarchy to Ancap as a rightwinger
I dunno
that said there's factions on the left too
the old guard hates the hipsters
By itself it is a useful distinction, but it’s ramapantly misused
On purpose, I think
and they cannot stand the socialist idpol nutjobs
I think then the only difference between leftwingers tho is their dedication to pragmatism vs idealism
And depending on how consistently an individual leftie adheres to principles, if they have any, is toward total obliteration of private property
eh, I think there are people who dont take up communal/state ownership as a principle, and there's also a difference re: freedom of speech and the like
old school lefties are more inclined to be pro-rights outside of property and maybe religious rights
eh
well in any case, it still seems that Left/Right is a useful distinction, but widely misunderstood, and used incorrectly
Now I realize too u can’t define Right-wing as property-rights-first
nope
ala Tucker
there's no consistent set of principles for either "side"
yes
but the Malice definition seems to be a good description
the principle is simply whether u are egalitarian-first, or recognize people are different not equal first
and u can get splintering ideologies based off those first two branches
well that also depends on what you mean by "people are equal"
legally, yes. On average people dont deviate that much for the most part. Even lefties though will ultimately admit that skill levels are different
yes? 😊
blank slatism is not universal on the left