and even the methane isn't even unsolvable

its belive the worst case scenario of these models or else youre a denier

like mfer how are we going to figure out some decent solutions if youre a doomsayer

yeah and if a small country like Belgium doesn't use the right lightbulbs it's all over

just ignore India and China

I just think that the idea that we know enough of the variables involved in what makes the climate work to accurately model it centuries out is utterly absurd.

as bad as China is, even they have been taking steps on their own to solve their pollution

theres def a lot of assumptions in it, some variables are held constant, when they arent actually and vice versa

just the earth rotation alone is crazy complex

there's cycles within cycles

cycleception

it assumes their models are correct, but I don't think a single one has even gotten close to being correct

if anything nature seems to do the opposite

i think part of the problem is that its an academic bubble

and all that assumes that it is a necessarily bad for everythign

other sciences dont have that serious of a bubble

some animals and plants would come out ahead, nature's funny that way

^

even with that big mass of plastic in the ocean the Jellyfish are thriving

which means anything that eats Jellyfish will also thrive

isnt that plastic from other countries like china?

and anything that eats them

mostly yeah

like i always hear how its our (usa) fault

the US I'm sure probably got it started

regarding the plastic island

probably

but the US has been quite good with that sort of thing for the last couple decades

We put enough of it in the ocean ourselves.

China and India are just starting to get there themselves

the recycling debacle was something i got a chuckle from recently. those on the right were saying recycling wasnt all its cracked up to be. then fast forward to now where china stopped taking our dirty recycleables and all the leftist cities are shocked

while the leftys are demanding action from the US I think China will likely be the ones to fix the issues they're causing

im in berkeley and they were blindsided

well thats what happens when youre in denial for 30 years

the real answer to the environmentalists issues are the ones they won't even humour

GMOs and Nuclear

i hate that they wont

Someone just find 5 kids so we can get Captain Planet to fix things.

gmos are amazing

and nuclear os the way to go

yeah game changing