Since you've demanded I prove my *perception* that libertarians I've dealt with are anti-government, @Beemann, I *chose* to indulge your fantasy world;
https://www.lp.org/platform/

*"Libertarian Party

"2018 Platform

"As adopted by convention, July 2018.

"PREAMBLE

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty: a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and are not forced to sacrifice their values for the benefit of others. ... The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power. ... We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose. ... Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent. ... We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual..."*

And that's your own party platform.
So yes, we **ARE** talking about *"2+2."* (Now watch this...)

@Legalize
No, I did not.
***IN FACT,*** since you went there for me, quotation marks (") mean "absolute quote" whereas apostrophes (') mean not absolute quote ('such as paraphrasing'). I *could point out that Beeman's use of quotation marks attributes to me something I **didn't** say, or I *could* be nice and just assume he wasn't familiar with the proper grammar, since our schools leave **MUCH** to be desired these days.
Since it doesn't 'appear' that he's trying to plagerize me, I'm going to assume the later.
¿Anyone ***ELSE***wanna try this *"old man"*? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah fuck that deserves another 🤣

Shit, ¿where did those extra hard returns come from? 😠

You didn't say merely 'all the libertarians I know are anarchists', you said 'all the libertarians I know are anarchists *and* that means all libertarians are anarchists *and* anyone who disagrees with that statement is not merely wrong but a liar'.

I mean, do you really not see what a totally insane standard that is @Mandatory Carry?

Wow learned something new today about paraphrasing quotations

TAHNKS DAD @Mandatory Carry

I'm still trying to figure out if he blocked me for 'lying' aka disagreeing with him so maybe he won't see or reply to that.

Nothing in the preamble says abolish government.

" ... We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual..."

pretty straightforward

*dabs on that*

Big strong.

Big Brain.

🤤

I wish we cud send pics in this

theres the pics channel tho

I'm disappointed every time I try and forget

but yea

just tag the person

Nah

It was a joke for the class

🤷🏼

@uncephalized
See, *'that's how apostrophes work.'
And no, that *is* a reasonable paraphrasing, because that is kind of what I said- Because I just f-ing quoted from the libertarian party's own platform.
... ¿Oops? (BTW, no, you're bullshit's actually kinda funny- like when a 3 year old with chocolate all over his face says, "no, I didn't eat the cake...")
@Big T
I'm sorry, they ***WERE***smart enough to not coming outright treason.
*"Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own,"* blah blah blah.
Once is an accident. I can let that slide.
Twice is malicious. I give you... Hmmm... ¿8 seconds at current reply rate?

Me and the boys, waiting for mandatori

Dad... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Mandatory Carry lol what are you going on about?

treason? where?

and what is this "once is an accident...twice" crap?

once what? once that you fucked up?

cuz i sure as hell didnt

@Mandatory Carryany time DAD!

Parkinson gang

@Mandatory Carry lol well? wheres that 8 second reply rate?

also the Libertarian Party platform is not the definition of libertarianism, although, as others have pointed out, they dont call for an end to government in that text u posted

Me and the boys, waiting on Mandatori. 👨👨‍🌾👨‍🍳👨‍✈️👨‍💼

@Mandatory Carry I guess the amusement is mutual, then. I find what you call reasoning very funny indeed.

@uncephalized can you make heads or tails of what hes saying?

@Big T only that he liked my dad joke

the dude is essentially showing us a picture of a cat and saying its an elephant.

i'd be down to see an elephant, but you have to show me one, not a cat.

I mean, he kind of makes sense if you try and really internalize the perspective of 'any idea that aligns with my biases is therefore factually correct' and 'anyone who disagrees with me is a malicious liar'.

sure, if one is a narcissist