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Out with it, Jon, ¿what are you hiding?

To be honest, I stopped watching when he called Shapiro's pro-lifery "state forced pregnancy" i thought that was the most moronic straw man I've ever heard. So I stopped watching

to quite millennials "I couldn't even"

Yeah. The first few seconds of the argument I heard was basically ‘people die , therefore murder is ok’

@Salacious Swanky Cat seems rather reductive

your comment

It’s not wrong though

That’s how it’s framed.

i know

GD FRAMING

Any time fertility clinics get brought up it really just begs the question on the operations of a fertility clinic.

It doesn’t defend abortion at all.

His argument there is basically people get murdered there so why not here.

My question is what is the diff between CONCEPTION and IMPLANTATION

online, i find them to be synonyms but I don't think that's true

because it takes 5-10 days for the sperm to fully implant so, in keeping with mantra "life begins at conception" is conception the instant the sperm hits the egg? or after that 5-10 day period?

Life begins at conception, it doesn’t matter if it’s natural or artificial insemination

When the sperm enters.

hmm

so you're saying (not like Cathy Newman) that implantation and conception are indeed synonyms?

Ok Jon. I'll skip the 6 minutes.
Thank you for being *honest* about it.

The sperm getting inside of the egg is conception. So I guess so.

do you have children?

No.

I have a 4 month old so I've recently gone through this and that's why I'm more interested and subsequently more confused

Fertility treatment?

the old fashioned way 😎

well done

Oh. Ok. Cool

Obviously the goal behind fertility treatment is the polar opposite of abortion

but I live in CA so dealing with doctors and insurance is annoying, they assert that you're not pregnant until a time that the doctor says "okay you're pregnant" which sucks morally and financially

I think the process should be made more effective and efficient so other children won’t die.

That’s ridiculous. Screw California

i know

I"m trying to move

I've already talked about this on this thread tho

Most of the way through the video. I have thoughts.

Move to Alabama

hmm

thinking Dallas