Message from @Lord Zedd

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2019-07-06 01:01:39 UTC  

investments aren't for the immediate they are for the future

2019-07-06 01:02:11 UTC  

What can they offer in the future?

2019-07-06 01:02:40 UTC  

We already have people trying to scare us because automation will make labor obsolete

2019-07-06 01:04:52 UTC  

if they wanted a fast injection of cash they could have basically low businesses tax set themselves up as a tax haven and build from there, take that money build good infrastrcture and hotels turn the country into a tourism hotspot

2019-07-06 01:05:58 UTC  

Not really, their instability makes them high risk, noonne is going to do high risk low return investments. The return has to offset the risk

2019-07-06 01:06:39 UTC  

which is why you're training their next generation of accountants, politician, police etc

2019-07-06 01:07:37 UTC  

the west does that for their countries in exchange they agree to certain terms like freeing up their markets and keeping the crime rate low as possible etc

2019-07-06 01:08:00 UTC  

this is long term investment

2019-07-06 01:09:41 UTC  

better to help them feed themselves than deal with them at your doorstep

2019-07-06 01:11:12 UTC  

Haiti doesnt need accountants and police. Copenhagen consensus already outlined their prioritize. And guess what, it needs immunizations, micronutrients, healthcare. Things that will take them a generation before making accountants

http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/sites/default/files/haiti_priorise_outcome_en.pdf

2019-07-06 01:11:51 UTC  

And 4 year election cycles have no interest in long term investments

2019-07-06 01:11:59 UTC  

you brought up Haiti I was keeping it general

2019-07-06 01:12:25 UTC  

Why general? Just creates room to hide from facts

2019-07-06 01:12:30 UTC  

Move the goalpost

2019-07-06 01:12:55 UTC  

because different countries have different needs

2019-07-06 01:13:01 UTC  

and "Etc" would include doctors

2019-07-06 01:13:53 UTC  

Maybe they don't need doctors, maybe they need population control

2019-07-06 01:16:35 UTC  

maybe they need llamas what ever they're in need for they could make an arrangement for in the terms, they need like a 1000 dentists they can the make a deal with say Germany to train some of their people in exchange for favourable trade agreements or whatever

2019-07-06 01:17:16 UTC  

What trade? They have nothing to trade

2019-07-06 01:17:26 UTC  

yet

2019-07-06 01:17:31 UTC  

hence it's an investment

2019-07-06 01:17:44 UTC  

it could be access to their ports

2019-07-06 01:18:00 UTC  

And once again, its a high risk investment with low return

2019-07-06 01:18:53 UTC  

And its a multigeneration investment which makes it unattractive to a democratic system

2019-07-06 01:19:13 UTC  

They'd have to get the support from a monarch or an authoritarian

2019-07-06 01:19:16 UTC  

more unattractive than taking on millions or migrants?

2019-07-06 01:19:24 UTC  

spending billions of aid and getting nothing back?

2019-07-06 01:19:45 UTC  

Taking on migrants does give you labor

2019-07-06 01:20:12 UTC  

it would seem not most of the migrants in Europe are unemployed

2019-07-06 01:20:25 UTC  

a lot are homeless

2019-07-06 01:20:29 UTC  

Because of european labor laws

2019-07-06 01:21:32 UTC  

and labour shortages aren't exactly hard to solve, Japan already has plans for their issues, temporary migrant labour

2019-07-06 01:22:09 UTC  

which could also work with my idea, they could take on workers temporarily as well

2019-07-06 01:22:17 UTC  

Which is what i said, your getting something in return

2019-07-06 01:22:56 UTC  

but that's not what most Western countries are doing

2019-07-06 01:23:03 UTC  

Here's the main thing, refugees should be resettled into countries that are most like the countries they are from.

2019-07-06 01:23:24 UTC  

There's a reason why people from the Dalai Lama's country went home.

2019-07-06 01:23:29 UTC  

assuming they're refugees in the first place

2019-07-06 01:23:32 UTC  

because they migrated to India not across the fucking world.

2019-07-06 01:23:50 UTC  

its one thing to live 8 hours away from your country, its something else entirely to be on a separate continent.

2019-07-06 01:24:00 UTC  

that's true