Message from @argyris

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2019-08-15 02:46:21 UTC  

You could watch that 2 hour YouTube video. At least the first 5 minutes of it. But you are too busy digging into the irrelevant life and death of Epstein.

2019-08-15 02:46:47 UTC  

why on earth would i watch that? and i sure as fuck aint digging into anythin epstein right now

2019-08-15 02:47:19 UTC  

No reason whatsoever. 1/5th of the U.S. economy, your healthcare system is not important.

2019-08-15 02:47:34 UTC  

"my" system. is not your system too?

2019-08-15 02:48:05 UTC  

Yes. It is. That is why I watch videos and read books. About the important things.

2019-08-15 02:48:31 UTC  

and the important things is a massive conspiracy to do what exactly?

2019-08-15 02:49:32 UTC  

To control 1/5th of the economy. To maintain the largest tax expenditure in the budget. To maintain 50% of the federal budget being spent on healthcare.

2019-08-15 02:49:54 UTC  

May be 40%. I forget the exact amount.

2019-08-15 02:50:10 UTC  

lol no bro

2019-08-15 02:50:23 UTC  

are you talking about medicare/medicaid?

2019-08-15 02:50:46 UTC  

I am including Medicare and Medicaid, yes.

2019-08-15 02:50:52 UTC  

medicare is 14%, medicaid is 9%

2019-08-15 02:52:02 UTC  

thats also part of the mandatory spending. so thats the 12.4% that is collected from you and your employer in medicare tax

2019-08-15 02:53:14 UTC  

Hmmm. Government taking money from some people and putting it in the pockets of other people. Nope, can't see why the Swamp would care about that.

2019-08-15 02:54:39 UTC  

yes, government taxes (takes money) and pays for services. what a concept.

2019-08-15 02:55:16 UTC  

that will always be the case, unless youre an ancap advocating for no government.

2019-08-15 02:55:57 UTC  

that article you link doesnt show how they get that 47.1% figure btw

2019-08-15 02:56:48 UTC  

I am advocating for the policies described in that book by Phelps and Parente, which would seriously reduce the amount of money we spend on healthcare. Which is why Parente could not become the most important policy person re health in the Trump Administration.

2019-08-15 02:57:39 UTC  

I listened to you, and im not convinced.

2019-08-15 02:57:56 UTC  

Ok.

2019-08-15 02:58:52 UTC  

The problem is trump never released a healthcare policy, which makes his direction unclear. Granted he could have ran on not giving a shit about healthcare, let the senate handle it :p

2019-08-15 02:59:55 UTC  

If Parente's ideas were good, the Republicans would have talked about it. If his ideas were bad, the Democrats would talk about them. But since they are dangerous to the swamp, nobody talks about them.

2019-08-15 03:00:47 UTC  

Not one article on the book written by Trump's nominee to be the head of policy.

2019-08-15 03:00:58 UTC  

No hearings. No vote.

2019-08-15 03:02:06 UTC  

#FreeAllTheThings /s

2019-08-15 03:03:53 UTC  

Everyone has heard of "Medicare for All" and "single payer." Not one word about what Phelps calls a "shameful" transfer of money from the poor to the rich. The socialists don't care!

2019-08-15 03:14:59 UTC  

What is the nature of this wealth transfer? You are alluding to something but it would be more helpful if you would just spell it out.

2019-08-15 03:19:07 UTC  

"Watch my 2 hour YouTube video or you're dumb/ignorant" isnt good faith argumentation, nor is it convincing

2019-08-15 03:20:26 UTC  

The ability to summarize is key to getting your core point across. Links are for requested evidence, not for the core argument

2019-08-15 03:20:58 UTC  

@argyris the Forbes article you posted says the Federal government pays for almost 50% of healthcare, not that healthcare is almost 50% of the Federal budget.

2019-08-15 03:21:26 UTC  

Also please explain this wealth transfer that is supposedly happening from the poor to the rich.

2019-08-15 03:22:07 UTC  

Isn’t welfare + social security basically 65% of the federal budget anyways?

2019-08-15 03:24:55 UTC  

The wealth transfer is the tax expenditure for employer healthcare. Phelps and Parente provide the details, including in that video. I'm sorry if I cannot explain it better than two of the most prominent professors of healthcare economics in the U.S. I didn't say "you're dumb/ignorant." I said this is important information about public policy.

2019-08-15 03:34:51 UTC  

You don't need to explain it better, you need to explain it *at all* because I'm not going to watch a long video. If you think this is an important issue then learn to summarize the key points of the argument.

Employer-provided health insurance isn't even a tax. It's a benefit as part of an overall compensation package. So how is that a wealth transfer?

2019-08-15 03:35:55 UTC  

"Employer-provided health insurance isn't even a tax. It's a benefit as part of an overall compensation package. So how is that a wealth transfer?"

Jews

2019-08-15 03:36:09 UTC  

I'm sorry. Not everything fits in 140 characters. Especially things that the Swamp doesn't want us to talk about. Em.ployer provided health insurance is the largest tax expenditure in the budget

2019-08-15 03:37:10 UTC  

When you talk about things that are not in the public view, nobody knows the ABCs. That is by design.

2019-08-15 03:37:57 UTC  

The words "tax expenditure" aren't even something most people have heard.

2019-08-15 03:39:28 UTC  

Discord has a 2000 character limit. And I'll repeat that employer-provided health plans are not taxes. They are compensation paid by employers to employees. So what are you talking about?

2019-08-15 03:40:57 UTC  

They are exempt from federal income taxes. That is called a tax expenditure. It is a trick to hide subsidies. Instead of handing people money, you make something they buy anyway tax deductible. That is the same thing as handing them cash.