If they are, they don't particularly show it

I remember that Blonde was pretty conservative in her views but I don't remember her ever speaking on the topic of religion

Blonde has mentioned recently going back to church and getting back into Catholicism, Matt alludes to being non-religious at times

A lot of people are getting into conservatism just because of the lunacy of left wing politics and its assault on free speech.

deus vult

now if only we can get rid of this commie pope

It is still odd to me that secular conservatism is a thing, though. I think that secularist conservatism is often just a more classical liberalism.

not wrong in that

I'm still hope people give that old liberatarian thing a try

At least I find there's an acknowledgement among those circles that Judeo-Christian civilization brought that about

and all of its wonders

its because george will and charles krauthammer took the place in intellectual conservatism that buckley once held

secular conservatism has been the governing philosophy of republican policy makers for the last 20 years or so

Maybe longer

despite media perception and what religious 'leaders' might tell you

principles without an anchor

Essentially. For what will we conserve believing that there is only death that awaits us?

^^^^^^

We will conserve...nothing. I guess.

Wait, so you only conserve for the promise of a big payout in the afterlife?

Nope

The main fault I find in libertarianism is that it focuses too much on the individual

Society doesn't exist without families

You conserve your life eternally through Christ.

you can be secular for something to leave behind for _someone_

libertarianism assumes that person virtue is of no importance

so far, the only real way to focus that is to have children of your own

It's not a payout in the monetary sense, or something.

Families have to come from the social realm. Libertarianism focuses on the individual in a political sense

It's still external rewards

@vngxl what if you conserve all your life, but never heard of Christ?

but that's the thing, where does libertarianism come in with a, I guess, cure, in the societal realm?

Where does Capitalism?

You have to clarify your question a bit.

You mean like uncontacted tribes?

What does Christianity say about running a successful business

So they're two legs to a table; what would be the third and fourth?

what I'm saying is that libertarianism seeks to limit the state completely, while failing to understand without a morally virtuous populace, all libertarianism will produce is a decade of anarchy followed by a century of tyranny

What do you mean by limit the state "completely"?

to prevent it from being capable of tyranny

If anything, libertarianism opens the door for social conservatives to shine, no?