but yeah, still applies I think

The thing I've seen working has been build a family, _and then_ a career

Oh its just gotten worse.

Cause I mean... wouldn't it make sense to have the kids grow up _before_ you devote yourself to working?

The message is somehow guys who work ARENT building a family.

Thats idiotic, men want a family as much as anyone, they work because thats what they're good at.

So that the interruption of being pregnant and giving birth and raising a kid doesn't come _while_ you're working?

it just boggles my mind

Hahaha

I've told my spawn if she has plans of having kids to have them early

Plus you can do the motherhood thing when you have tons of energy and can stay up all night.

We (as in my family) will support her if/when it comes to that

But no shit outside of wedlock ~~like what daddy did~~

How did you end up a single dad?

cause I will murder the cunt who does

Uhhhh long story short is teenage pregnancy, gf wanted to abort, I said no, so she fucked off into the distance

left me with this bundle of miracles

Interesting!

Did you raise her with family support?

I think a good family support structure for raising a kid is massively important.

Yeah, mostly from my mother though

which I'll always be grateful for

Also, yeah

The problem I have with leftists is like

and this goes to welfare as well

The whole idea of "it takes a village" isn't necessarily wrong

It's just that they look at it and take all the wrong lessons from it

Back when that proposal was valid, the village was basically your extended family

You shared goals and values, and you knew what was expected of you

society is so isolated and broken atm that getting the village to raise a kid will just end up in a confused and lonely kid

end up a *

Yep

The ... uhhhh

Bully Early.

what's the word

And often.

Aloofness?

Impersonality?

Isolationism

I think nails it.

Yeah there you go, thank you