Message from @Thots&Players

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2019-10-24 16:30:29 UTC  

Ive gone back and forth on the death penalty issue like 6 times lol but if your basis for it is christianity, youre gonna run into a lil bump in the 10 commandments sonny

2019-10-24 16:30:47 UTC  

What bump?

2019-10-24 16:31:31 UTC  

Thou shalt not kill except for if they're being super fuckin child rapey or anything wild

2019-10-24 16:32:02 UTC  

we should amend the tablets brought down from mount whatever

2019-10-24 16:34:03 UTC  

In the Hebrew it is referring to murder. Why would God make a rule of not killing, and at the same time form a culture where the penalty was death for some sins

2019-10-24 16:34:52 UTC  

Or turn around and tell Joshua to yeet basically every other tribe in the region

2019-10-24 16:35:52 UTC  

Wait i thought Capital Sins were a concept in the Torah..?

2019-10-24 16:36:08 UTC  

To be fair i dont really know what the fuck im talking about lol

2019-10-24 16:37:24 UTC  

Death penalty is in Leviticus my dude

2019-10-24 16:37:54 UTC  

interesting though that
>The three largest Christian denominations in the United States are split on the issue of capital punishment.
The Roman Catholic Church opposes it in virtually all cases;
the Southern Baptist Convention approves of it in certain cases;
the United Methodist Church opposes it in all cases.

2019-10-24 16:38:38 UTC  

I need to learn more about my own damn religion lol

2019-10-24 16:40:14 UTC  

To be fair, im only back on Christianity after like 6 years of being a materialist atheist for bout a year now

2019-10-24 16:41:18 UTC  

Anyone have that experience, come from a Prodestant sect earlier in life, and have trouble deciding what denomination to choose on the reversal? lol

2019-10-24 16:42:35 UTC  

Denominations are for the weak

2019-10-24 16:42:37 UTC  

So much about Catholicism doesnt sit right with me, but it seems like the least "deviation based on convienience and social trends"

2019-10-24 16:43:01 UTC  

Jk. But seriously why is denomination important?

2019-10-24 16:43:15 UTC  

I would say they are.

2019-10-24 16:43:50 UTC  

Protestants are much more "loose readings and its up to your interpretations of the text"

2019-10-24 16:44:11 UTC  

I used to be a fairly devout Lutheran

2019-10-24 16:44:31 UTC  

I would argue that they aren't. I grew up messianic, married a Baptist and go to a non denominational church

2019-10-24 16:45:01 UTC  

yeah pretty much. But not like the catholic church is in any real state of originalist interpretation

2019-10-24 16:45:35 UTC  

Just much more so than the others it seems lol

2019-10-24 16:46:48 UTC  

yeah, Catholicism delegates intepretation of scripture to the papacy and their organizational hierarchical structures if i understand correctly

2019-10-24 16:50:14 UTC  

Right, "Sola Scriptura" is the "By Scripture Alone" concept that the catholic church rejected

2019-10-24 16:51:37 UTC  

The only thing i really know about the Catholic Church is from E Michael Jones, so definitely a biased source, but im interested in the history of it all

2019-10-24 16:52:04 UTC  

Sounds good budday!

2019-10-24 16:53:34 UTC  

@CCRed95 I am working right now so I am not to responseive. But if you would like to discuss more about the death penalty, or about denominations and coming back to faith, message me.

2019-10-24 16:54:16 UTC  

wait @Legalize Jesus did appoint the first Pope right, that was his original concept? And what is the Prod/Lutheran rationalization for not recognizing the idea of a Pope, and also the concept of confession?

2019-10-24 16:55:28 UTC  

and Thots sounds good. I definitely want to learn more about it all and particularly the history and the disagreements and the acts of subversion of the church teachings and stuff like that intrigues me

2019-10-24 16:58:49 UTC  

@CCRed95 As Protestants we reject that anyone else besides Christ can be head of the church. We do not believe Peter was the first pope.

2019-10-24 16:58:49 UTC  

As a prior Lutheran i always saw the pope as basically illegitmate because it seems like the elevation of a human to a diety/worship of man/etc, but i do now understand that theres a good reason to have a sturctural/hierarchical type organization of people responsible for defining a non-wofty interpretation of scripture

2019-10-24 17:00:13 UTC  

I really dont like the whole kiss the ring dress like a godlike elevated figure and all the pomp and circumstance of the stuff surrounding the concept of "the pope"

2019-10-24 17:01:07 UTC  

And im not totally big on the concept of confession as done in the Catholic church

2019-10-24 17:01:54 UTC  

but may just be that i was taught the Lutheran slant and thats what im used to, who knows

2019-10-24 17:02:30 UTC  

So that Peter was the first pope is a disputed fact?

2019-10-24 17:02:59 UTC  

Protestants and Orthodox do not recognize the papacy

2019-10-24 17:03:09 UTC  

The church wasn't so strictly formalized in those days.

2019-10-24 17:03:30 UTC  

The Catholics aren’t as unified as they would like you to think, despite them going on about Protestants being all over the place.

2019-10-24 17:03:49 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 17:03:53 UTC  

Protestants don't even pretend to be the same as each other though.