Dont try to feed yourself unless we think its ok

Sure. I'm in no way saying Scandinavian countries are perfect in every respect.

I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid, but just as a thought experiment, how do you feel about driver's licenses?

For people yes, for blacks, no

I was merely giving an example of a specific subset of policies working.

I was just curious. I really, didn't mean anything by it.

Honestly, the NSDAP would probably be closest to where I am economically. Minus the socialized medicine.

@FitnessByHeatherHeyer (((He's))) wrong about the free speech.

Otherwise, sounds great.

Also, NatSocs aren't fascists.

What's the difference?

You guys ever see that show Man in The High Castle?

At the absolute highest level? Fascists believe the state creates the nation. NatSocs believe the reverse.

The show is supposed to present a nightmarish scenario if the Germans won the war, but ever notice how the new Nazi world looks like a total utopia lmao.

It's weird to think of a nation outside the context of a state.

it may look like a utopia but there's still the dark underbelly

like the Nazi officer's kid getting sick

@FitnessByHeatherHeyer That's what I've heard.

Lmao the left still trying to pretend they care about free speech

^

@MechMage Maybe. But that is an extremely recent phenomenon.

Hate speech is not free speech and anything I disagree with is hate speech

Stating the obvious.

Hate speech is best speech.

t h e r e i s o n l y h a t e s p e e c h

If only...

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But yeah, fascists were essentially CivNat cucks.

@MechMage think of the Kurds

That's a nation without a state

I don't know all that much about the middle east beyond that it's a quagmire.

It's something to think about anyway.

Then think about American blacks vs American whites.

Or even better, American blacks pre Civil Rights Act.

A nation with (basically) no state representation.

The way you're using the word nation (I'm clarifying because mostly I've heard it used as a near synonym for state) is "a group of people with a common culture history and lineage" correct?

Pretty much.

Blood and soil, essentially.

A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Are the fascist and national socialist conceptions of the nation/state relationship descriptive or prescriptive?