Message from @Obrimos
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Why? Surely if we only import where there's a shortage it can only be helpful
And they'll be not rapefugees
Actually skilled people
Regression to mean is a thing
grateful to be here
No. It lowers wages in a sector that is a path to upward mobility for natives
It also drains off brains from other, often poorer, countries that then clanor for American aid. Fuck all that
But what if we just didn't give them that aid
for America - we are the third most populated nation on earth with some of the most prestigious schools in the world and are the leader or close to the leader in every industry, there is no reason to import labor
In fact, labor would benefit from mass deportations.
Hateful
there is no job that American citizens cant do for themselves
Wages going up on top of that tax break would be great for anyone who isn't a Jew swindler.
But the GDP
Fuck your gdp and the Judaism it rode in on.
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Capital punishment. That's what the fubi fuckbois should be rooting out. If that faggot Hoover had done his actual job he'd have locked meyor lansky and his Jew fuck buddies
FBI*
Sure, we can train anyone, but we can always use more engineers and whatnot. Picking up the best from around the world can only help us as a country. The amount that wages are going to be suppressed when you're at such a high end is likely not going to be that big of a deal, and at the end of the day it'll result in cheaper and better products for those very same low-level laborers who are most harmed by our current practices
lmfao
Cheap consumer goods isn't a public good, and you have no reason that importation of labor would have only a marginal effect on wages.
brain drain for those nations - if you care, and importing cultures dissimilar to our own is not constructive
whatever immediate need it fills is offset by the intangible cost of diluting the identity of the nation
Again, regression to mean is a thing
The parents may be exception but the children will most likely be average
America is an information economy, so hard sciences etc are where we are most vulnerable to wage suppression, which is why the neocons are pushing for quota destruction and h1b increases.
Because I'm talking about importation of only high level people. Their wages are so high in large part because there are so few of them, and if their wages are somewhat suppressed, it'll be fine as long as they're still making 5 figures. If you can show me figures that say that there's gonna be massive wage reduction I'd totally be willing to give them a looksie, but I don't think that the statistics show that it's that much. It matters more to the low-level person, though.
Also, uhhhhh you seem to assume that I am big into importing people from the third world
a huge amount of workers in silicon valley are immigrants, mostly from India
The standards are low there too
its either 1/3 or 2/3, cant remember the story but it was recent
A friend of mine who works in the industry told me these management types bring in Indian workers to bring down operating costs and get a bonus and then the company starts to do worse because the schooling standards in India are worse but by then the guy who made the decision is long gone
Right but I feel like the process might currently be a bit corrupt. Like are we looking for the cheapest best labor or just looking to put the very best at the front of the immigration line? If we're taking fucking indian universities at their face value something is fucked up
doesnt matter, do we need white europeans? they literally have no right wing parties and vote for such liberal policies that the term "rapefugee" is in the public lexicon
America has enough people, a moratorium on immigration is the only sensible option
there is no case for immigration