@PiusXIII there are so many loopholes is what you just said that I think I'm getting dizzy

Don't put a computer in your child's bedroom, Kevin.

Or do and use something like pfSense to secure and filter their connection. Won't stop everything, but it's a move toward, you know, actual parenting.

You can also see traffic logs on that if you choose, so you can be a parent and monitor their online behavior that way.

My household has no electronics in the kid’s bedroom

Pretty easy for parents to enforce actually if you have enough balls to stand up to your children

All I had in my room when I was a kid was a game console and TV, but that was before online gaming on consoles took off.

NES for the win.

Co signed

I still have my NES

And games

I like you, @The Bitter Draught . You co sign on my stuff.

NES generation has to stick together

Guess we lost Kevin Jr. Must be furiously beating his meat and feeling guilty.

I couldn’t game when controllers got more than than 8 buttons

Lol I was gonna say

He's on a trip down to South Wankston.

Im not gonna lie I made full use of the early internet when it showed up

It was the wild west, man. You had to explore.

And the fact that absolutely outrageous porn in infinite quantities is now available for free is not lost on me

However the individual and the family has to figure out how to naviagte these waters

I do find it darkly amusing that if you go to a brewery's website, you have to click a thing saying you're 21. But you hit the 'Hub and there is no facade of an age check.

Didn't there used to be?

I would also counter that a lot of these fellows seem to be saying porn has removed their ability to form real relationships with women. If that’s the case I don’t think a porn ban is going to turn them into studs

There have been socially awkward meat beaters since the dawn of time

The skill to present yourself to a woman as a potential mate is almost entirely unrelated to porno

As I kinda said earlier, an abstract porn ban has got them admitting the costs of porn addiction, and that's what really matters.

I do feel bad for addicts of any kind

Matt asked for a definition of a porn addict. A quick definition of an addict is when you actively want to stop something but can’t because of compulsiion

I’m a heavy drinker. Probably 4-5 drinks a night but I absolutely love it. I don’t sot around wishing I could stop. Also 4-5 doesn’t turn into 12 for me (usually)

Thats the difference between a heavy drinker and an alcoholic. Alcoholics wish they could cut back but feel compelled to keep going

You probably haven't given much thought to the ramifications of pickling your liver.

I have. It’s a rational choice

How is it rational?

I weighed the potential costs against the benefits of the pleasure of being buzzed

Most of the costs are defrayed into the future and the benefits are immediate so I may at some point regret my choice.

The actual definition has nothing to do with wanting to quit it has everything to do with the dependency on the substance

But it’s not like I don’t know that The bill will come due some day

Dude, death by cirrhosis sounds terrible.

Im at no risk of cirrhosis

It takes heavier drinking than that