Nope.

I didn't say that, it's not about murder being immoral it's about it being a violation of another's rights

Defining when force can be used is morality, per se.

Well, that part's a complicated topic and we're already busy in here haha

maybe later

@Lord Zedd
That is the point!

Is the violation of others' rights not immoral?

sure but you're not prosecuting on the morality but on legality

Does self defense count as "stopping harm with force"

we don't arrest people for being of bad character

@Lord Zedd
Lolwut

Well, duh.

we arrest them for violating rules

I am proposing laws banning porn.

Being of bad character is only immoral if you subscribe to virtue ethics though.

Big Bad is taking on all comers here

So... those would also be legal.

A utilitarian wouldn't consider poor character to be immoral.

Yeah this popcorn is getting more intense

How come he’s standing alone

We arrested people for being bad characters that violates other peoples rights

And where did all these porn banners come from?

They werent here 30 minutes ago

We arrest people who are incidentally of poor character because they violate laws as a result of that character.

The intermediate step is pretty important.

They're just dudes who won't admit that they really do watch porn and feel guilty about it for whatever reason. It's never gonna happen.

fuck who am I kidding I'm not going to sleep anytime soon am I?

Guess they finished beating off for the 6th time today

My favorite part is that the "debate" chat is completely empty lol

Lol

This is not even close to a debate.

I forget that channel exists

last time this debate happened in the video channel

porn being debated in a video channel. Interesting.

No debate assumes that both sides have a point. With this, One side is correct, and the other side is fucking retarded

@MechMage I know, it's more people telling at eachother.

Telling at each other. I like it.

@GoGoGadgetWang1
Agreed. Your addiction has made you retarded.

Pfft, dedicated chat rooms never work.

the thing is at its core it's a debate between liberty and authority, are you justified to dictate what another does with their body/time/money if it doesn't harm you?

Isn't there a Styx vs E. Michael Jones porn debate sometime this week?