Pretty good point, tbh.

Reconsidering your dismay at the whole Muslim gf thing?

Lol. Not even a little.

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@ScootDood I agree Matt did a great job holding his own.

@ScootDood lmao we were the ones twisting ourselves in knotts?

Matt "I'm not saying porn is moral, that's unfair. But I could defend porn on moral grounds" Christiansen

definitely the callers who were contradicting themselves

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The chat is on FIRE

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@A. Spader
But have you considered "government bad"?

that's a compelling point

I hadn't considered that

I knew it! Checkmate statists.

Checkmate.

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I'm watching Lauren Chen's latest show and Taylor Swift is just such a piece of shit

"I'm so oppressed, I'm one of the richest singers in the world ever"

Yeah I watched that earlier. Poor her and all her success.

Wonder if she'd have been able to get started without her daddy's connections 🤔

@A. Spader Yeah, because the whole "broadcasting porn on the side of my house across form a church and school is the same as posting it on the internet" argument was not at all contortions 😂

first of all that wasn't me making that particular argument, secondly to call Matt's defense anything other than scatterbrain suggests we didn't listen to the same show

he would say it was about publishing, thereby saying he was defending it under the 'freedom of the press' and then jump to saying it was speech before saying again he was being taken out of context on speech

and he seemed to vacillate between saying porn should be defended morally and saying he just didn't want the methods "it would take"

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I didn't say that was you. I'm saying that argument was trying to conflate two completely different topic, which takes mental contortions to make sound logical. Whereas Matt has a simple standard, ie it violates other's rights = it should be banned, it doesn't = it shouldn't be banned.

You're focusing so much on the trees you're missing the forest

lol

yeah that's definitely me doing that

Well you're focusing on his usage of "publishing" vs "speech" rather than looking at the perspective as a whole sooo.... lol

yet another thing - is porn a right?

neither Matt nor you give a clear answer on that

My ability to do what I see fit that doesn't harm anyone else is a right. My viewing of porn doesn't inherently harm someone else. Therefore, it is part of my right to do what I see fit, yes.

alright, so by your standard, what is destructive personally is completely fine, even if it alters your own nature, as long as it "doesn't hurt anyone else"

of course by this standards anything like a ban on drugs or narcotics is a violation of your rights

Sure. It isn't the government's job to protect me from myself. It is their job to protect me from others