Message from @Viv
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The right to self defence
@Viv Because conversation is rendered impossible. Under your view, truth doesn't matter.
I mean you've not sufficiently demonstrated it to me
can you demonstrate to me this innate right
Don't care.
@Viv
Me?
I just said rights are for fags.
Fake and gay.
>you don't have a right to self defense
Wat
Please tell me that was a troll
if you're saying there's some right to self defence, then there must be something, some sort of fact that make it true. But if there is such a fact, how do we know it? Does it smell like anything? Can we see or hear it?
no he's just retarded
I still haven't seen you prove to me that there's some kind of innate right to self defence
lol. Viv is basically arguing that concepts can't be facts because he can't touch them.
What an idiot
when did I say that?
truth exists regardless of our knowledge of it
With his worldview, thoughts don't exist either.
This is funny
If you don’t have a right to self defence it means others have the right to harm you
no they don't?
lmao
your right to defense is your inalienable right to life, your life is so inherently valuable that the government is not allowed to restrict how you defend it
@Viv do natural rights, or human rights, exist, or are they entirely made up?
I don't know if you're going to claim that they exist I'm going to need you to demonstrate them.
Lol. Human rights are gay as shit.
I can have a preference not to die
@A. Spader His worldview argues that all concepts are made up.
Pretty much
It's the conclusion of it.
but that's not some inalienable right
you have an imperative for self defence and it's assumed to be universal so I guess that could seen as a right
It's self refuting too. How does he know there aren't moral facts? He just asserts it.
No moral statement can be true. They are meant to be true or false, but they are ultimately false. That’s why whenever we make a moral statement, we are in error. Because we are making a statement that cannot be validated.
I can be expected to defend myself and so can you so it's accepted as the right thing to do