Message from @sydtko

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2019-12-11 21:20:31 UTC  

lol

2019-12-11 21:20:53 UTC  

I didn't cite it, Dodger did, but what do you want me to take from this?

2019-12-11 21:21:29 UTC  

At least he studied under Derek Parfit but meh

2019-12-11 21:21:31 UTC  

I think I'd defend the first justification (consequentialism -> ruletil) and also against the incoherence justification

2019-12-11 21:23:19 UTC  

alright

2019-12-11 21:23:22 UTC  

I found the next good meme

2019-12-11 21:23:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654433075811450916/0mxuf43m0x341.png

2019-12-11 21:24:24 UTC  

when I said the sub was repetetive

2019-12-11 21:24:27 UTC  

@Dodger101 i meant it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654433342741151745/unknown.png

2019-12-11 21:24:28 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi Oh i saw you posting the quote tbh.Well if i remmember the dialectic started with the issue of exceptions and and then at one point you posted the responce to the objection from collapse from standford page

2019-12-11 21:24:51 UTC  

@Castore sure, I guess I need to read yoru PDF both on what the original and revised incoherence objection are

2019-12-11 21:29:43 UTC  

@Deleted User @Sasha This is for the boghossian stuff you were talking about earlier https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12136-018-0369-0

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654434666648174632/unknown.png

2019-12-11 21:31:30 UTC  

I'm getting baited by papers I know that are going to be utter trash

2019-12-11 21:31:31 UTC  

Fuck

2019-12-11 21:31:32 UTC  

Fuck

2019-12-11 21:31:34 UTC  

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk

2019-12-11 21:31:41 UTC  

@sydtko who are you

2019-12-11 21:31:48 UTC  

i didnt even ping you for the paper

2019-12-11 21:31:51 UTC  

Your father. Go to your room. Stop posting

2019-12-11 21:31:54 UTC  

triggered by eliminativism?

2019-12-11 21:31:57 UTC  

Or you're grounded

2019-12-11 21:32:20 UTC  

Triggered by non-eliminativists

2019-12-11 21:34:38 UTC  

i have a something that will really trigger you eliminativism cannot be self defeating because truth is a folk psychology notion https://philpapers.org/rec/PARITM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654435906651947038/EGTZY7cVUAAjy7h.png

2019-12-11 21:35:27 UTC  

I mean, you could choose to "eliminate" occams razor the strongest eliminativist principle but...

2019-12-11 21:35:31 UTC  

What in the actual fuck does that mean to you?

2019-12-11 21:35:42 UTC  

Believing you can't make a distinction between identity and non identity?

2019-12-11 21:35:45 UTC  

🤣

2019-12-11 21:36:53 UTC  

And yes... all representative concepts are false as per to the concept they represent... that's obviously true

2019-12-11 21:37:13 UTC  

I can't imagine how this is a novel idea

2019-12-11 21:38:30 UTC  

```Nevertheless, the reply reveals that a mental fictionalist ought to be a kind of quietist. ``` I'm kind of biting, but that's just not the case... you can be a fictionalists of all sorts, enjoy saying false things, knowing they're literally false

2019-12-11 21:38:53 UTC  

So........ you're not bound to norms of old pragmatic discourse. IE: You ought not assert X unless you think X is true

2019-12-11 21:39:02 UTC  

Warranted assertibility

2019-12-11 21:39:13 UTC  

You'd want to live in the best world possible that benifits you not other people lol

2019-12-11 21:39:41 UTC  

If having African slaves benifits you and you were an egoist your want that

2019-12-11 21:39:56 UTC  

Yes? Generally? I mean, I think the world that best benefits me also happens to benefit others.

2019-12-11 21:40:16 UTC  

A world where I have a consumptive demand for the african slaves making blood diamonds is a better world where there isn't the demand

2019-12-11 21:40:33 UTC  

Granted, there's *an even better conceivable world* where there's a different demand, rather than blood diamonds

2019-12-11 21:40:36 UTC  

@sydtko not necessarily unless part of the benifit to you is some emotional attachment you have to people and value you place on them

2019-12-11 21:41:05 UTC  

Well, this is all fictional discourse, right?

2019-12-11 21:41:37 UTC  

So the demonstration of the principle is that hypothesizing and constructing counterfactual situations are fictions, they are not literally true

2019-12-11 21:41:48 UTC  

So we've slipped into fictionalism... as always happens