Message from @actual_communist_boi

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2019-12-11 21:17:19 UTC  

first paragraph is good

2019-12-11 21:17:22 UTC  

so everyone is trans

2019-12-11 21:17:23 UTC  

```The incoherence objection is a major objection to rule-consequentialism. The objection says that the theory allows actions that do not maximize wellbeing, even though the theory is also tacitly committed to maximization```

2019-12-11 21:17:39 UTC  

but only .5% exert symptoms

2019-12-11 21:17:48 UTC  

so its impossible to be wrong when you egg someone

2019-12-11 21:17:55 UTC  

and thereofre it is not problematic

2019-12-11 21:17:57 UTC  

<:PogU:524717853019209749>

2019-12-11 21:18:40 UTC  

@Castore so I'm not sure exactly what Hooker's response is or this guy's response to Hooker's response

2019-12-11 21:19:00 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi ''The viability of this defense of rule-consequentialism against the incoherence objection may depend in part on what the argument for rule-consequentialism is supposed to be. The defense seems less viable if the argument for rule-consequentialism starts from a commitment to consequentialist assessment. For starting with such a commitment seems very close to starting from an overriding commitment to maximize the expected good. The defence against the incoherence objection seems far more secure, however, if the argument for rule-consequentialism is that this theory does better than any other moral theory at specifying an impartial justification for intuitively plausible moral rules. (For more on this, see Hooker 2005, 2007.)''

2019-12-11 21:19:04 UTC  

anti-philosophy gang needs to rise up

2019-12-11 21:19:05 UTC  

this si from the standford page

2019-12-11 21:19:31 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi the responce they cite against the incoherence is from hooker

2019-12-11 21:20:17 UTC  

WHO THE F IS BRAD HOOKER oh

2019-12-11 21:20:21 UTC  

Another worthless moral philosopher

2019-12-11 21:20:24 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi the author that article is responding to,i got this from just reading the section and collapse in the standford page you cited

2019-12-11 21:20:31 UTC  

lol

2019-12-11 21:20:53 UTC  

I didn't cite it, Dodger did, but what do you want me to take from this?

2019-12-11 21:21:29 UTC  

At least he studied under Derek Parfit but meh

2019-12-11 21:21:31 UTC  

I think I'd defend the first justification (consequentialism -> ruletil) and also against the incoherence justification

2019-12-11 21:23:19 UTC  

alright

2019-12-11 21:23:22 UTC  

I found the next good meme

2019-12-11 21:23:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654433075811450916/0mxuf43m0x341.png

2019-12-11 21:24:24 UTC  

when I said the sub was repetetive

2019-12-11 21:24:27 UTC  

@Dodger101 i meant it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654433342741151745/unknown.png

2019-12-11 21:24:28 UTC  

@actual_communist_boi Oh i saw you posting the quote tbh.Well if i remmember the dialectic started with the issue of exceptions and and then at one point you posted the responce to the objection from collapse from standford page

2019-12-11 21:24:51 UTC  

@Castore sure, I guess I need to read yoru PDF both on what the original and revised incoherence objection are

2019-12-11 21:29:43 UTC  

@Deleted User @Sasha This is for the boghossian stuff you were talking about earlier https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12136-018-0369-0

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2019-12-11 21:31:30 UTC  

I'm getting baited by papers I know that are going to be utter trash

2019-12-11 21:31:31 UTC  

Fuck

2019-12-11 21:31:32 UTC  

Fuck

2019-12-11 21:31:34 UTC  

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk

2019-12-11 21:31:41 UTC  

@sydtko who are you

2019-12-11 21:31:48 UTC  

i didnt even ping you for the paper

2019-12-11 21:31:51 UTC  

Your father. Go to your room. Stop posting

2019-12-11 21:31:54 UTC  

triggered by eliminativism?

2019-12-11 21:31:57 UTC  

Or you're grounded

2019-12-11 21:32:20 UTC  

Triggered by non-eliminativists

2019-12-11 21:34:38 UTC  

i have a something that will really trigger you eliminativism cannot be self defeating because truth is a folk psychology notion https://philpapers.org/rec/PARITM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/654435906651947038/EGTZY7cVUAAjy7h.png

2019-12-11 21:35:27 UTC  

I mean, you could choose to "eliminate" occams razor the strongest eliminativist principle but...

2019-12-11 21:35:31 UTC  

What in the actual fuck does that mean to you?

2019-12-11 21:35:42 UTC  

Believing you can't make a distinction between identity and non identity?