Message from @sydtko

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2019-12-29 03:34:12 UTC  

If you want it in prop logic, it's in here @ 30 mins

2019-12-29 03:35:02 UTC  

Depends on your beliefs about logic of whether *it needs a language*... since you have to delineate what that means

2019-12-29 03:35:56 UTC  

If "logic" is the metaphysics or the external world, that precedes us (in my belief)
And thus, there's no need for language for logic... granted, you can have higher order logics based on natural laws to communicate back the natural laws in analytic form (natural sciences)

2019-12-29 03:37:48 UTC  

@The Beholder You can start with any premise you want in logic except the absurd ones...

There is X (something)
There is nothing <-absurd premise
Granted, you can think of some world where you keep using the semantic place holder of "nothing" and continue logic... but it seems like it's the same thing as the vacuous tautology

2019-12-29 03:38:32 UTC  

There is something. (you can't make inference to particulars except "something") from this
There is nothing. (you can't make inference to particulars except "nothing") from this...
But this is a pyrrhonic argument where you dispense modus ponens completely

2019-12-29 03:38:39 UTC  

I don't

2019-12-29 03:39:25 UTC  

I've lost the plot of this one

2019-12-29 03:40:42 UTC  

@AusFox are you enjoying this <:Feelsweirdman:644895953064820776>

2019-12-29 03:41:15 UTC  

Anytime you assert a position X.... normatively the position not X is assumed to be false...
So there already is an implicit conjugation

2019-12-29 03:41:32 UTC  

Assuming the LNC

2019-12-29 03:42:40 UTC  

https://youtu.be/66enDcUQUK0?t=2313 time stamp on nothing is an object and contradiction, then he goes over the prop logic syllogism

2019-12-29 03:43:46 UTC  

A = subjective
B = objective
In this argument, yes? I think they're the same thing because I don't accept LEM
A and B have some overlap... (or maybe complete overlap), they are a complete bijection <:pepeLMAO:644901342216847388>

2019-12-29 03:45:09 UTC  

Actually bijection might be the wrong term since it might imply only one directional inference

2019-12-29 03:45:17 UTC  

<:doobyirl:602961252075175965>

2019-12-29 03:45:44 UTC  

If A requires B then yes there is overlap because A = some B

2019-12-29 03:45:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628013859776626711/660689909882945536/ss_2019-12-28_at_07.44.34.jpg

2019-12-29 03:45:50 UTC  

B =/= A

2019-12-29 03:46:30 UTC  

well... this is why I'm a trivialist... I disagree that they're distinct...
For the sake of discussion i let people use whatever semantics they like though

2019-12-29 03:47:01 UTC  

Since then you have to go "Where and when does the subjective become objective?" (You have to answer never, to be consistent)

2019-12-29 04:14:15 UTC  

@L.A.IN i wanna watch monogatari

2019-12-29 04:14:49 UTC  

which season ? And are you realizing methode has bad taste <:Smug:643129431434461194>

2019-12-29 04:19:02 UTC  

@AusFox can you turn up your mic?

2019-12-29 04:25:29 UTC  

@Yiddlemethisgoyim Have you seen the uh...
Farming wages argument for immigration?

2019-12-29 04:25:44 UTC  

Wages in that industry have increased like 20%... so even if you're a capitalist, your desire *should be for cheap goods*

2019-12-29 04:26:03 UTC  

```Between 2014 and 2018, the average hourly real wage for nonsupervisory hired farmworkers (in 2018 dollars) rose from $12.00 to $13.25, an increase of 10.4 percent. ... In 2018, the farm wage was 58.5 percent of the nonfarm wage, compared with 54.8 percent in 2014.```

2019-12-29 04:34:50 UTC  

@Deleted User This will be you... when you fall into watching SoL

2019-12-29 04:35:37 UTC  

there's some lolisiscon shit of all you need is sister <:MonkaS:643820797605183488> <:Feelsweirdman:644895953064820776>

2019-12-29 04:36:15 UTC  

I'm glad to say I have not and will not watch that trash

2019-12-29 04:36:22 UTC  

well... maybe I'll sink further into degen some day

2019-12-29 04:37:05 UTC  

and oreimo

2019-12-29 04:44:30 UTC  

That's coincidental because I was just reading the page on existence from SEP.

2019-12-29 04:44:33 UTC  

It's dog shit... imo...

2019-12-29 04:44:45 UTC  

Because Frege and Russel think existence is a second order property 😴

2019-12-29 04:44:47 UTC  

And that's dumb as fuck

2019-12-29 04:45:23 UTC  

And they have to believe that as mathematicians / platonists...
Since numbers ... especially the non-natural numbers don't exist

2019-12-29 04:45:39 UTC  

-infinity, -1, 0 ....

2019-12-29 05:27:08 UTC